Men's Group

diminishing or degrading.

That men, in particular, are incapable of lusting after a woman and simultaneously comprehending that she is an intelligent human with a brain. That those two ideas can't coexist in our pointy, tiny little heads.

I don't know where this fucking gibberish comes from. I suppose if one is marinating in gobbledygook about how sex itself is inherently oppressive or degrading and "PIV" is an unnatural act imposed on humanity as part of Teh Grrreat Space Patriarchy Conspiracy, it might make sense. Don't even get me started on the "ironclad proven scientific concept of objectification" and the "well understood cognitive process" it supposedly describes....




But the fact is, we are multi-layered creatures and we are more than capable of being attracted to people on totally superficial, physical bases even, without that physical superficial attraction inherently degrading or diminishing the human we are attracted to. It's funny that people who go on about the "madonna/whore complex" seem to be the very ones who seem totally unable to reconcile physical sexuality with other human characteristics.

I've said before that I think a lot of this is papered over, sublimated, or repurposed old-fashioned religious fundamentalism and guilt around sex. I stand by that.