Men's Group

When someone complains about their lot in life being made arbitrarily difficult by law or society, I'm a good listener and often a good advocate.

When someone talks about equality, I'm going to try to evaluate the claim ("yes but&quot . Equality is a math expression; you can't appraise the situation without considering both sides of the equation. Thus, when someone says "pay is unequal, women make X% of what men do", it is not only relevant but logically mandatory to observe that men work more hours in more dangerous jobs with more experience with more unemployment and are willing to negotiate for the best deal.

All too often, this results in accusations of threadjacking, when it's really not, it's evaluating the claim.

But the worst alienating conversation tactic is "men think...".

Setting aside issues of fairness and equity, this is what has happened to you in the last 40 years.


Men graduating from high school will be paid less than their grandfathers.