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In reply to the discussion: WTF! BDSM in the RCMP? ITEOTWAWKI! [View all]Upton
(9,709 posts)8. Targeted for being kinky..
I'm not even sure who Meghan Murphy is, sounds like a sex negative second wave radfem, but the majority of the comments following the piece at this particular site, from women and what appears to be some men, disagree with her conclusions..For example:
Funny thing though; as well as being a feminist to the core, I like to be tied up and beaten. I have never in my life been abused, raped, or suffered any kind of sexual (or indeed non-sexual) trauma. I am not in any way mentally ill. I also enjoy tying up men and beating them. They aren't mentally damaged either. So where do these perverted desires come from? Am I a bad person because of the things I enjoy? Well according to your article and one sided, sensationalist opinions, it would seem so.
or:
As many posters have already indicated, what we do in private for pleasure has no bearing on how people govern their relationships, and govern themselves in their jobs. We have theoretically stopped discriminating on race, on sexual orientation (apparently you can be gay, just don't be kinky?) and religion. And yet, when it comes to other aspects of sexuality, this passes as acceptable and reasoned discourse? This is sophistry and rhetoric; arguments and facts twisted to make an ideological point with no reference to facts, research or statistics.
or:
I already addressed the distinction between fantasy and reality. Are there some sick people in BDSM? Of course there are - in exactly the same probabilistic distribution there are in any other random sampling of society. Brown *might* be one of them, but a feminist painting BDSM practitioners with the "you're a sicko misogynist" brush is no better than any man painting women with the "you should be in the kitchen" brush. Do you really want to lose all your progress as a feminist by indulging in the very kind of discrimination you want to see abolished?
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/feminist-current/2012/07/private-fantasy-public-reality-rcmp-bdsm-and-violence-agains
It's great to see people from the BDSM community standing up to such drivel..
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I may get into it in depth later, if I feel so inclined, but the piece itself really reads like a
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#4
Odd how, in my porn-addled male gaze objectifying misogyny, I forgot to not take her seriously
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#20
"want to talk about people who can frame the economic arguments better, there's your go-to person"
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2012
#21
Apparently, the idea that the ever-expanding list of people who've been blocked from that group
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#17
Yep. There are a whole long list of happy, unapologetic porn people who fuck up the narrative.
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#26
Once again the radical left and radical right are indistinguishable from each other
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#9
I promised a bit of a breakdown on the original article, scare quotes and all, so here goes Part I:
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#18