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Major Nikon

(36,922 posts)
23. I'd rather talk about male voters
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:41 PM
Apr 2014

Since this is the men's group. If you want to make it about something else, then start your own thread somewhere else. I was generous enough to entertain your obvious derailment of this conversation, and even showed how the party is losing male voters at an even higher rate in the very groups you mentioned. The Democratic party platform changes every single election, and why is this? Because the party is trying to attract various demographics. So it's not even an issue of whether the Democratic party has to change. It can and will change just as it has every single presidential election since Democrats have been Democrats. Regardless of what you think, 33% of the male Hispanic vote is no small potatoes, especially when you consider the reason Texas and other majority minority states in the Southwest are so largely due to that demographic. So sure, minority votes most certainly do matter, but alleging that the Democratic party can't go after both minority and male votes simultaneously is just silly. Furthermore the Democratic party already does cater to the white vote far more than to the minority vote, it's just they are still head and shoulders above the alternative.

This is not GD. We maintain a civil atmosphere here. If you want to make your nonsensical veiled accusations of racism, then I'm going to invite you to do so somewhere else. This is getting old very quick. Gender issues =/ minority issues. Two different subjects. As you say, there's little point in continuing the conversation if you're so intent on changing it, especially when you appear to be intent on doing so just to be disruptive.

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It's a weird thing Inkfreak Apr 2014 #1
Given the alternatives, I prefer dealing with the consequences of telling the truth. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #2
I enjoy your posts. Always read em. Inkfreak Apr 2014 #3
Thanks lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #7
i don't think your post was good at all CreekDog Apr 2014 #12
You don't have to screw over every other goup in the country to court the white male vote. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #16
Hear hear. nt rrneck Apr 2014 #5
Agreed. And one issue to lose: Gun control. Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #39
I can get behind some of these more than others. rrneck Apr 2014 #4
This is primarily a political manifesto, not a policy one. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #6
Not sure of the institutional response, but you are right Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #40
I'm not so sure. westerebus Apr 2014 #8
The unspoken presumption here is that men are not motivated by self interest. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #9
It is strange. westerebus Apr 2014 #10
black men haven't left the Democratic party at all, what are you talking about? CreekDog Apr 2014 #11
Actually the disparity is greater for those groups Major Nikon Apr 2014 #13
so what CreekDog Apr 2014 #14
You seem to think it's a zero sum game Major Nikon Apr 2014 #15
you're changing the subject, if you're not going to stick with the point you made CreekDog Apr 2014 #17
Turning a thread about male voters into a thread about minority voters isn't changing the subject? Major Nikon Apr 2014 #18
you'd rather just talk about white voters? CreekDog Apr 2014 #19
I'd rather talk about male voters Major Nikon Apr 2014 #23
Consciously conceding the votes of the majority of voters is bad strategy. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #24
then why are you doing it? CreekDog Apr 2014 #26
I'm doing no such thing. Period. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #27
What do you think happens to the created White House offices Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #20
All the more reason that Republicans should not win. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #21
so you'd support creation of an office of women and girls? CreekDog Apr 2014 #22
I don't have to support it, it's already there. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #28
so you don't support it, but you want one for men and boys created anyway CreekDog Apr 2014 #30
I wouldn't fully support either without the other. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #32
Granted. Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #25
The next Republican president won't eliminate the office of women and girls. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #29
That's fair Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #31
And I'd like to add that if a Republican does come along next year and screw it up... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #33
There may never be another Republican president Major Nikon Apr 2014 #34
the majority of voters are women CreekDog Apr 2014 #35
Married women vote like their husbands. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #36
you're saying that when your wife chooses a candidate you don't just go along with that? CreekDog Apr 2014 #37
51% of married women voted for Romney. 61% of single women voted for Obama. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #38
Jobs, jobs, jobs, reforming immigration laws and jobs. bettyellen May 2014 #41
Number two is just so spot-on. No place is more discriminatory than the typical family court. n/t Darkhawk32 May 2014 #42
Thanks. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #43
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