Men's Group

Looking at the replies to your question, there are more than a few points of view among several men here.

If you asked if the policy out of the White House on drone use meets their perception as liberals, I think you would find few would agree. While, the majority would agree self defense of the nation is a given.

Nuance. The herd of cats under the big tent.

Then there is age difference. Experience difference. Educational difference. East coast, fly over, west coast difference. Religious, spiritual or heathen. And the all important economic ladder.

Supporting a policy of equal rights from an economic point of view, think capitalism as it relates to wage labor, has little resemblance to liberal policy. Women entering into the labor force in large numbers depressed wages across the genders. The intent of the policy may well have been to eliminate historical barriers in total, the result is mixed.

To get back to myself, their is no appeal to either label/identification that doesn't carry baggage.

Politically, I would just as soon support a Bernie Sanders, as I do support a Mark Warner, for the policies that call for moving the Nation in a direction that benefits the majority.

My opinion is the current system needs radical change.

I know there is a long way to go to get to a place that puts We the People ahead of the liberal-conservative divide.