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westerebus

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13. Who is denying it?

Reply to nomorenomore08 (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:59 PM

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If I actually thought there were "Anti-Feminists" in this group, I would kick them out. [View all] Bonobo Jan 2014 OP

The idea that disagreeing with one or a group of feminists, makes one anti-feminist is rubbish Major Nikon Jan 2014 #1

I'm always amused at the "You're not doing feminism correctly" snark from certain quarters ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #2

Feminism is advocacy for women. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #3

If I had time to get bothered about every ridiculous name some random Ginkus calls me on DU Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #4

As I've said before, I think we on DU generally agree on 90% of the really essential stuff. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #5

Because it is a personal war for some. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #6

For instance, if one admits that systemic racism is still a problem in this country - which is a big nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #7

People invariably see things from their own vantage point. Bonobo Jan 2014 #8

I don't disagree with any of that. I understand perfectly well where some of these reactions come nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #11

Because the implication within the statement isn't their experience. westerebus Jan 2014 #10

Denying the mass-level effects of racism doesn't help working-class white folks in the slightest. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #12

Who is denying it? westerebus Jan 2014 #13

Maybe not in those exact words, but people reacting so defensively to discussions about racism nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #14

If you intend to frame this as either they are racist or they are dumb. westerebus Jan 2014 #15

Social class is a vitally important distinction as well. Some downplay it far too much nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #19

If you ask if racism exists, you will find broad agreement. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #16

All I'm saying is we each have to be able to articulate our reality honestly, without self-censoring nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #17

I think I've demonstrated my general broad support for "speaking one's mind" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #18

And yes, harsh truth needs to balanced with a more conciliatory aspect. I don't disagree there. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #20

Work = Force times distance. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #25

You'll forgive me if I don't get too worked up over the "silencing" of so-called "heroes" Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #21

I didn't say intaglio was a hero. He was being a complete asshole to you and that wasn't fair. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #22

I do have a Devil's Haircut. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #23

You don't appear to pull punches very often here. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #26

+1 Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #31

Maybe above all else, I try not to wade in beyond my depth. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #34

Thank you, Warren. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #24

I did not know the backstory. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #30

Boy, you are verbose! Behind the Aegis Jan 2014 #32

I have no issues with the term "white privilege" Major Nikon Jan 2014 #9

I think we can agree - Dash87 Jan 2014 #27

I think you would knock them out libodem Jan 2014 #28

Once they paint you with that brush Bonobo Jan 2014 #29

You were probably libodem Jan 2014 #33

Good one! nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #35