Men's Group

as cover.

Let's be real. People have been paying attention; and despite the fact that we can't see meta anymore, people remember what went down there, too.

It is worth noting, when people talk about "the current conflagration in GD".. it's not "current". It's been going on in one form or another pretty much continuously for YEARS.

I don't engage anymore, I've pretty much given up, because when I disagree, my words are twisted into some ridiculous straw caricature and taken out of context. When I agree, I'm painted as putting on an act or somehow "hiding" my true feelings. Pointing out the behavior only seems to further on additional iterations of it, which I'm sure this post will do as well. So I've pretty much said "fuck it", and stopped taking certain aspects of this place seriously- at all.

I'd say this, though: if all sorts of people from all different groups and approaches keep mentioning that there's a problem, if randomly selected juries keep seeing a problem, if the same problems crop up over and over again with your* behavior no matter who you're talking to... it's possible, just possible, that the problem isn't some conspiracy or refusal to listen on a particular issue- the problem MAY ACTUALLY BE your behavior.


* -again, not "you"