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Warren DeMontague

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15. I'd never heard the term until it came up here on DU.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:46 AM
Dec 2013

All the more funny when I heard someone or other was convinced that I was one of the "leaders" of that "movement", you know, stealh-moonlighting on DU.

I mean, the impetus for me to sign up on this place, originally, was a flurry of political energy spurred, in part, by my attendance at the March for Womens' Lives, in DC in April of '04. Odd way for a stealth MRA poop-bah to hatch his secret DU plot.



What I think really happened was, when DU3 came online, I like many was refreshed by the transparency and the freedom to openly acknowledge certain long-time disruption phenomena which had previously been obliquely talked about but were always hush hush... Things like sock, "shared" and zombie accounts, and the like. And I discovered that one of the numerous totally useless life skills that I apparently possess, is the ability to spot particular personality or posting patterns, combined with an uncanny memory for meaningless data. And I fully admit that a pet peeve of mine at the time was characters who flouted basic site rules (like: dont get banned, dont have multiple accounts) while simultaneously lecturing other people on the site about rules and behavior.

So, I enthusiastically spotted a few of these characters once or twice, called them on what they were doing, which probably led to an outsized reputation as either having spooky powers or at least being an overzealous "troll hunter". Really, I fell into the trap of taking this place a bit too seriously.

The implosion of meta, and a couple terms on MIRT, i think cured me of this. Of course I realize that the same return customers who I spotted, before, are back again and posting on DU now... I just don't really give a shit, anymore.

(I don't understand why people who claim to hate a site would continually come back to hang out on it, but, not my problem.)

As for the rest of it, I think most of these "fights" have been had at least once, if not more. Take "ogling". There was a big fight over "ogling" in 2011. Another, I think, in 2007. There will probably be another one in 2017. Team A will say "don't ogle" and team B will get indignant that some random stranger is assuming they do. And, so it goes.

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It seems to be a worthwhile conversation. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #1
Agree completely. And I realize I can be a tiny bit hotheaded at times, but otherwise nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #2
A lot of people seem to think this group is the source of whatever problems they have with or in GD Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #3
As I've said, it really dismays me when real, serious issues take a backseat to personal beefs. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #4
You, too. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #5
I know you're basically an honest and straightforward guy. I don't see how you've become such a nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #6
I'd never heard the term until it came up here on DU. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #15
You have done a GREAT job staying neutral IMO. nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #8
I appreciate you saying that. Bonobo Dec 2013 #7
Ya know, when I see those threads... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #9
I think for one or two of the people you're talking about, coming to grips with certain personal nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #10
I have no business speculating on what the issues, if any, may be, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #11
I admit I'm ambivalent. On the one hand, personal attacks are discouraged with good reason here. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #13
Yeah, it's easy to say just turn off the computer, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #14
I get that one doesn't know what issues a given poster is dealing with. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #12
Ok.. Going to try to put this as nicely and inoffensively as I can... opiate69 Jan 2014 #16
I agree with that. And I accept the possibility that some posters are simply rude, unpleasant people nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #17
The flip side of that is, some people with long histories of toxic behavior use "....tone argument!" Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #18
All well and good, however, opiate69 Jan 2014 #19
It's not a perfectly objective matter by any means. But when people take things overly personally nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #20
In all honesty Bonobo Jan 2014 #21
"we have opened the doors to just about everyone by unblocking nearly all DU members" sibelian Jan 2014 #22
I don't remember if you were or weren't but your voice is welcome! nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #23
Oh yeah, this group is mostly fine. I was talking more about GD threads. n/t nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #24
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