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lumberjack_jeff

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39. Ad hominem. Weak.

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:34 AM

Nov 2013

I will just say one thing about that. I've never posted an eyeroll smiley in response to a thread about rape in any of the womens groups.

"more prevalent in society as a whole"

No. If we accept that prisons are part of "society as a whole", the article linked to the OP says that more men are raped in prison than women are in society as a whole.

FWIW, I question the accuracy of the article linked in the op, but because reliable statistics are nonexistent it's hard to argue the point. If the justice system were truly interested in the issue they would do a NCVS survey on inmates but they don't because;
- the results are bound to be embarrassing
- they're just prisoners; and worse, men.
- as you said upthread; rape in prison "makes perfect sense". How could you possibly sort out the victims from the perps? They all look alike.

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More men are raped in the US than women, figures on prison assaults reveal... [View all] Upton Oct 2013 OP

Maybe rape will be much less funnier now to some of us. marble falls Oct 2013 #1

I guess the OP went so far over your head that it wasn't even visible. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #3

Who EVER said it was funny? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #4

Yes. Bonobo Oct 2013 #5

Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #6

I've certainly seen it on DU Major Nikon Oct 2013 #11

Yeah, but less so lately.The community has, by and large, figured out that it's not okay. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #12

Count on the conservatives to condone prison rape. radicalliberal Oct 2013 #2

I don't believe it's just conservatives.. Upton Oct 2013 #7

And not just prison. Bonobo Oct 2013 #8

All true.. Upton Oct 2013 #9

Some seem to think pointing that out is the SAME as denying that there is sexism Bonobo Oct 2013 #10

For a crime that is mostly committed by men, this makes perfect sense, actually CreekDog Oct 2013 #13

Then lets talk about the victims. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #14

No, are you saying in society as a whole they are most victims? CreekDog Oct 2013 #15

Are you saying male rape victims don't deserve to be called victims? Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #16

Absolutely not. Male victims of rape are victims CreekDog Oct 2013 #17

That's good to hear. Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #18

I agree with BTA. It seems you're reading some subtext into the OP Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #19

This group is based on subtext CreekDog Oct 2013 #22

I don't think that's the subtext in the group, at all. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #23

My problem is about the same as if there were a "Whites group" on DU CreekDog Oct 2013 #24

You sort of contradict your own point, there. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #25

Yep, that's about the long and short of it. Bonobo Oct 2013 #31

I would consider blocking you from the Group, but you are doing such an effective job Bonobo Oct 2013 #30

The irony reaches the point of hilarity Major Nikon Nov 2013 #37

I agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #40

Que the fallacious conflation with racial discrimination Major Nikon Nov 2013 #32

Someone has to vanquish the boogeyman Major Nikon Nov 2013 #36

And boognish the vanquiman, too! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #38

That's what the article says and the math isn't all that difficult Major Nikon Oct 2013 #20

I'm not really sure what you're getting at.. Upton Oct 2013 #21

are most rapes committed by men? CreekDog Oct 2013 #26

So because the victims are men too, they deserve no consideration? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #33

I would say that certainly seems to be the implication.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #34

yes, they do and i'm sure you agree as demonstrated by your many posts against rape of women CreekDog Nov 2013 #35

Ad hominem. Weak. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #39

you want a medal because you never posted an eyeroll smiley about a woman being raped? CreekDog Nov 2013 #41

Civil rights laws aren't gender specific Major Nikon Nov 2013 #42

Nobody needs to get a medal for not posting an eyeroll in response to rape ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #43

why don't you post a poll in GD asking whether DU thinks prison rape is wrong CreekDog Oct 2013 #27

You can post your own push poll.. Upton Oct 2013 #28

Who said anything about what feminists do or don't think on the issue? Major Nikon Oct 2013 #29