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Levon

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60. You misunderstand me

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:16 PM

Oct 2013

Just because someone is economically non-productive doesn't mean they're lazy or anything like that. In some ways you could classify police officers and soldiers as economically non-productive since they don't really produce anything. Their protection is indispensible and important, but in a pure sense they are economically non-productive. It's an imperfect analogy but I hope you get my drift.

I'm not saying there's something wrong with someone who's not. I used to be a stay at home parent and quite honestly I felt it was a privilege to stay home with my young daughter and not have to work.

Maybe you should ask a couple of questions or something first before you start launching the insults.

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Is it a privilege to be able to stay at home and not work? [View all] Bonobo Oct 2013 OP

I was not well respected when I was a stay at home dad. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #1

If you are female and you choose to stay at home with the kids, you're a good mom Major Nikon Oct 2013 #4

That is an accurate assessment. Bonobo Oct 2013 #5

Pretty much, yep... opiate69 Oct 2013 #6

It is patriarchy. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #8

I could substitute the word "culture" for your "patriarchy" Bonobo Oct 2013 #9

You've hit it on the head. ElboRuum Oct 2013 #71

Yes, it is a form of privilage. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #7

A third -I think that is optimistic. Denninmi Oct 2013 #2

Half of waking hours, one third if you count sleep. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #3

privilege to stay at home and not work. no, women do not get much more respect or appreciation seabeyond Oct 2013 #10

Lots of words, little understanding. Bonobo Oct 2013 #11

ability to choose? that really was not what your OP was about. your Op was more acceptable, ya, i seabeyond Oct 2013 #12

That was precisely what my OP was about. Bonobo Oct 2013 #13

no. not about zero. about as many people that appreciate the value of a stay at home mom (and not seabeyond Oct 2013 #15

I do believe you give great respect to stay at home dads. Bonobo Oct 2013 #17

everyone has the choice. what you are really saying is men are respected less if they make that seabeyond Oct 2013 #18

shoot, re reading your Op is see you even recognize this. seabeyond Oct 2013 #14

I did nothing of the kind. Bonobo Oct 2013 #16

Here's what I think you're missing Major Nikon Oct 2013 #34

You nailed it. Bonobo Oct 2013 #38

Feminists do. MadrasT Oct 2013 #39

And we really DO appreciate that! nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #40

Some feminists undoubtedly do, but that is not what feminism is about. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #46

I am not anybody's mom MadrasT Oct 2013 #76

Opinions don't cancel out the choice The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #19

Ridicule is still the individual manifestation of discrimination. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #21

I think hazing is not really a valid analogy. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #24

I wish everyone could stay home The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #45

I worked 25 years before becoming a stay at home dad. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #20

There are a bunch of things going on here, I think. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #22

Okay, Part II: Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #23

It's true enough that the first battlefield of the bullshit war is in our own heads. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #26

Oh, no, I know exactly what you mean. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #27

+1000 about the ACA. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #28

Wow. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #44

I agree with a lot of what you said. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #43

"Caregiving dads treated disrespectfully at work, study finds" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Oct 2013 #29

I'm sorry RR. nt lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #30

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Sorry, too, Riff. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #32

Thanks, Warren. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #41

Look, everyone, there's a thread in the men's group! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #33

Yep yep.. of course, opiate69 Oct 2013 #35

But their grandmama's worked! Bonobo Oct 2013 #36

Up Is Up. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #37

Now with 50% more racism!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #47

I'm beginning to think using the Men's group to post links to reading comprehension training lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #53

Let me clarify my position. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #42

I don't think you went off track. Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #48

Thank you. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #49

You are quite welcome. Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #64

Trust me, I may take you up on it. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #75

It's times like this... opiate69 Oct 2013 #67

Your comment was perfect. RiffRandell Oct 2013 #74

Def a privilege. Look at the history of staying home. Levon Oct 2013 #50

. cyberswede Oct 2013 #51

"economically unproductive" is an overstatement. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #52

I didn't say unproductive Levon Oct 2013 #58

I think you're misreading the industrial revolution. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #61

Damn, I need to send my 7 year old daughter out to get a job! RiffRandell Oct 2013 #54

You misunderstand me Levon Oct 2013 #60

I think you are "cleverly" trying to understate the role of the stay at home parent ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #55

I used to be one Levon Oct 2013 #56

As opiate69 mentioned upthread... cyberswede Oct 2013 #59

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #57

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You can tell them over and over it's just a baby ruth bar Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #63

Now that's some fucking funny shit! opiate69 Oct 2013 #65

I love that movie. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #66

lol.. me too.. first time I ever got "heroically" baked, I watched it... opiate69 Oct 2013 #68

I watched it as a double feature with "Cheech and Chong's next movie" lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #72

LMAO! Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #69

"Check Please!" Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #70

How many couples have the luxury of one being able to stay home R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #73