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10. I actually had the same reaction when the Snowden affair started:
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jul 2013

what is new about it. If anything, I remember the discussions about the phone records at that time. I know I seriously objected to this then and still do now.

Yep, I would also agree with your daughter concerning libertarian vs progressive. I have to say I am always shocked by the lack of confidence toward the government from some part of the "left". I am not saying you have to be blind and accept everything but the conversations I have seen this weekend are closer from freeperland than from reasonable people. I am fairly left wing myself but I am absolutely puzzled by what I read here. I just do not see how these types of discussion will help people.

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