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karynnj

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6. Not Kerry's peers in the Senate - like Ben Cardin per the quote that I posted in the other thread
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:03 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83771.html

The other comment I would have is that there were very few on Daily Kos who EVER supported Kerry for anything. I suspect that there is not just concern on Brown, but the latent anti Kerry nonsense that is prevalent even when he is doing good things that they agree with.

Think back to the DK thread in 2005 that whined that Reid and others in the Senate were angry that Kerry was acting as if he were ONE of the Democratic leaders - when he was the most recent standard bearer who game within a very small number of votes in Ohio to being the President.

Remember ALL the diaries that suggested Obama needed to give Hillary something - or that Kennedy needed to create a special sub committee of the HELP committee that would create the health care bill - chaired by Hillary. Consider all the people (not liberals) suggesting that Obama find an important use for Romney. The fact is that neither the internet or the pundits of the beltway have ever advocated for Kerry.

They might actually make a better case if they argued that he was too valuable in the Senate - rather than effectively saying that he is a D seat warmer.

I do agree with you that for many BAD reasons Kerry will not get SOS. I hope, if offered, he turns down SOD. Why walk into a mess where you will be the likely scapegoat if the military gets too angry over Obama's choices to revamp the military. He owes Obama nothing and it is clear that Obama and others likely led him on - both this year and in 2008 - on SOS.

Not to mention - even if Brown did run and win, he needs to run again in 2014. So, he will have had 4 elections within 4 years. The 2014 election is at the same time as the Governors race in MA, so the turnout would be higher than normal. In the first, it was not just that it was a special election, but that the Democrats were complacent. Additionally, he ran as a blank slate, claiming he was moderate - even verging to the left (on a national spectrum). His ads used JFK and did not say he was Republican. He now has a record -- and it is so unpopular in MA that he ran on Warren being a fake Indian and for big companies! He is not the "nice" guy of 2010.

Brown might not even run. The fact is that for Senate, party matters. Not so for Governor. If he ran for Senate and lost, he would likely after 2 losing elections not get the nomination for Governor.

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I think Kerry would be a great SOS, but have a problem with Rice leveymg Nov 2012 #1
The whole dog and pony show is so apparent it just pisses me off. blm Nov 2012 #16
I think Kerry should be allowed to do what he thinks is best... Kalidurga Nov 2012 #2
And? Who cares? Mass Nov 2012 #3
Because it affects things, that's why. It happened last time when beachmom Nov 2012 #8
Listen, I think that you may be right on Rice being named, but Mass Nov 2012 #9
Those same skilled 'leakers' are doing exactly what they did in 2004, 2006, 2008 - preventing Kerry blm Nov 2012 #15
Who says they're liberals? ProSense Nov 2012 #4
Here: ProSense Nov 2012 #5
People are rec'ing Harry Reid's comments on Brown. beachmom Nov 2012 #7
A lot of liberals ProSense Nov 2012 #10
I agree with you, as do many others. n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Jan 2013 #42
What is slightly illogical is that they are concerned about 2014 - but ignore that karynnj Dec 2012 #30
Not Kerry's peers in the Senate - like Ben Cardin per the quote that I posted in the other thread karynnj Nov 2012 #6
I find it stunningly stupid that people think he should stay where he is, wisteria Nov 2012 #11
But JK's current job is important Noisy Democrat Nov 2012 #12
^^^ THIS. ^^^ MH1 Nov 2012 #13
You said it best Blaukraut Nov 2012 #14
YES. MBS Dec 2012 #19
No doubt, he is a great Senator and his work in the Senate is extremely important. wisteria Dec 2012 #40
Was watching "Basic Black" politicasista Dec 2012 #17
I wonder why? wisteria Dec 2012 #18
They did not do anything like that. Mass Dec 2012 #20
Ok n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #21
I found this show very interesting, and at least trying to defend Rice on the merit. Mass Dec 2012 #22
Makes sense politicasista Dec 2012 #23
Go easy on me, I didn't open the link. wisteria Dec 2012 #24
I guessed you did not open the link Mass Dec 2012 #25
My daught was away at school and she just came home, wisteria Dec 2012 #31
Me opened up a small can of worms politicasista Dec 2012 #27
Ah, it is all good. wisteria Dec 2012 #32
Same to you n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #41
They are on DU; babylonsister Dec 2012 #26
... politicasista Dec 2012 #29
I didn't see your post at the time you posted it, or wisteria Dec 2012 #34
thanks MBS Dec 2012 #35
Thanks, great find. Mass Dec 2012 #36
I don't know if its a certainty AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #28
The times are not right for Republicans. wisteria Dec 2012 #33
Amusing. We just had two elections with a full slate of Dems (and true Dems, not Pryor) Mass Dec 2012 #37
I'm not insulting you AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #38
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