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wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
10. I think that either we open the primaries or fix the gerrymandering.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jun 2016

There also has to be a reasonable standard to allow third-party candidates to get on the ballot. My state has some of the most prohibitive rules in the nation. Only the Libertarian Party has managed to clear the bar and it took them decades. I don't have much patience with the Greens, but I sign their petitions for ballot access every single time someone holds it in front of my face.

And we need to get some public funding for campaigns, give the newbies some seed money to get started.

I have little patience for Sanders and his minions coming and trying to change the rules of the halfway through the game when it became evident they were losing. That is sour grapes. But the frustration they are expressing with the two-party system and candidate choice is real and has been evident to me for ages. Most districts are not competitive. Whoever shows up with a D or R next to their name in the GE wins. It is impossible for third-party candidates to even get on the ballot in many states and then they get shut out of the debates. So the only way to win is to be a D or an R. The independents and third-party people are effectively shut out of the system. Like it or not, there are more of those every year. People who are not mainstream Dem or Rep are frustrated. Hell, *I* am frustrated. This is not a good system. Something has to give.

IMO, either the Democratic Party makes a SERIOUS effort to fix the gerrymandering and states lower the bar for third-party ballot access or we open the primaries. If we don't do something we will face more rebellion in our ranks in coming years.

Also, from my experience doing tons of voter registration and GOTV, most who don't register with a party don't because they know nothing about what the parties represent. I only do this work in high-poverty, predominantly minority areas and I can assert that the lack of party ID has nothing to do with purity or privilege. Either the parties are not doing good outreach or they are not addressing people's issues. Both?



If we made primaries more competitive, it might be GOOD for the party. Clinton won against Sanders, even in open primaries, because she was a better candidate and ran a better campaign. She EARNED it. I am not afraid to see more unaffiliated voters come into the system because I support strong candidates and believe they can win. It would also give the party a chance to make their pitch to unaffiliated voters who are unfamiliar with our values, revitalizing the base in the process. I dunno. Seems like there is a big upside to open primaries if we are willing to take some risks.

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Join it and participate in it, and to hell with a caucus. Those are anti-democratic. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
We cannot allow people to come and try to weaken our party ! Her Sister Jun 2016 #2
Good common sense post from Kos. Koinos Jun 2016 #3
The malcontents are the people who can't do the hard work to make an alternate party. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #4
No sale, Bernie. teamster633 Jun 2016 #5
I'm with Kos on this, and where the hell do I sign up? I think the party's rank-n-file should get.. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2016 #6
1000000+ I absolutely agree with you. skylucy Jun 2016 #25
I've been following Presidential elections since the early 1970s, and I don't recall.... George II Jun 2016 #7
That's the truth! SharonClark Jun 2016 #9
My favorite part: NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #8
I think that either we open the primaries or fix the gerrymandering. wildeyed Jun 2016 #10
Isn't that for states to decide? The Democratic party has no business... Walk away Jun 2016 #12
Not sure what you mean. wildeyed Jun 2016 #13
That is what I mean. Walk away Jun 2016 #19
Sure, but we make it hard for third parties in ways that stifle democracy. wildeyed Jun 2016 #22
Gerrymandering is performed by the party in charge, it should be done away with but in Texas Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #14
Democrats gerrymander too. wildeyed Jun 2016 #17
Yes Democrats is also guilty of gerrymandering. Let it go by county lines, they are already drawn Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #18
If a third party is going to be viable they need to be better organized. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #26
Chicken or the egg problem.... wildeyed Jun 2016 #28
Using the leverage of his adoring followers to fire DWS who was leaving after the convention.... Walk away Jun 2016 #11
And, that's his MO.. "petty and mean spirited".. he lost so he has to blame it on anyone Cha Jun 2016 #15
Love KOS.. he speaks for me.. Cha Jun 2016 #16
He speaks for me too! And he has been tearing it up for the last 2-3 months Number23 Jun 2016 #20
I know.. I'm been loving what KOS has had to say about the bernster. Cha Jun 2016 #21
Couldn't agree more. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #23
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #24
These things are in place to keep from having a Trump on the Democratic ticket liberal N proud Jun 2016 #27
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