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In reply to the discussion: So, TPP and Obama. Thoughts? [View all]

Cleita

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26. I can only think of two words and one phrase, blackmail, bribery or drank the Kool-Aid.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 04:42 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie Sanders has this to say about it.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/the-trans-pacific-trade-tpp-agreement-must-be-defeated?inline=file

SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS: THE TRANS-PACIFIC TRADE (TPP)
AGREEMENT MUST BE DEFEATED
 

 
The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a disastrous trade agreement designed to protect the interests of the largest
multi-national corporations at the expense of workers, consumers, the environment and the foundations of
American democracy. It will also negatively impact some of the poorest people in the world.
 

 
The TPP is a treaty that has been written behind closed doors by the corporate world. Incredibly, while Wall
Street, the pharmaceutical industry and major media companies have full knowledge as to what is in this treaty,
the American people and members of Congress do not. They have been locked out of the process.
 

 
Further, all Americans, regardless of political ideology, should be opposed to the “fast track” process which
would deny Congress the right to amend the treaty and represent their constituents’ interests.
 

 
The TPP follows in the footsteps of other unfettered free trade agreements like NAFTA, CAFTA and the
Permanent Normalized Trade Agreement with China (PNTR). These treaties have forced American workers to
compete against desperate and low-wage labor around the world. The result has been massive job losses in the
United States and the shutting down of tens of thousands of factories. These corporately backed trade
agreements have significantly contributed to the race to the bottom, the collapse of the American middle class
and increased wealth and income inequality. The TPP is more of the same, but even worse.
 

 
During my 23 years in Congress, I helped lead the fight against NAFTA and PNTR with China. During the
coming session of Congress, I will be working with organized labor, environmentalists, religious organizations,
Democrats, and Republicans against the secretive TPP trade deal.
 

 
Let’s be clear: the TPP is much more than a “free trade” agreement. It is part of a global race to the bottom to
boost the profits of large corporations and Wall Street by outsourcing jobs; undercutting worker rights;
dismantling labor, environmental, health, food safety and financial laws; and allowing corporations to challenge
our laws in international tribunals rather than our own court system. If TPP was such a good deal for America,
the administration should have the courage to show the American people exactly what is in this deal, instead of
keeping the content of the TPP a secret.
 

 
10 Ways that TPP would hurt Working Families
 

 
1. TPP will allow corporations to outsource even more jobs overseas.
 

 
According to the Economic Policy Institute, if the TPP is agreed to, the U.S. will lose more than
130,000 jobs to Vietnam and Japan alone. But that is just the tip of the iceberg.
 

 
·∙ Service Sector Jobs will be lost. At a time when corporations have already outsourced over 3
million service sector jobs in the U.S., TPP includes rules that will make it even easier for
corporate America to outsource call centers; computer programming; engineering; accounting;
and medical diagnostic jobs.
 

 
·∙ Manufacturing jobs will be lost. As a result of NAFTA, the U.S. lost nearly 700,000 jobs. As
a result of Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, the U.S. lost over 2.7 million jobs. As
a result of the Korea Free Trade Agreement, the U.S. has lost 70,000 jobs. The TPP would make
matters worse by providing special benefits to firms that offshore jobs and by reducing the risks
associated with operating in low-wage countries.
 


2. U.S. sovereignty will be undermined by giving corporations the right to challenge our laws
before international tribunals.
 

 
The TPP creates a special dispute resolution process that allows corporations to challenge any
domestic laws that could adversely impact their “expected future profits.”
 

 
These challenges would be heard before UN and World Bank tribunals which could require taxpayer
compensation to corporations.
 

 
This process undermines our sovereignty and subverts democratically passed laws including those
dealing with labor, health, and the environment.
 

 
3. Wages, benefits, and collective bargaining will be threatened.
 

 
NAFTA, CAFTA, PNTR with China, and other free trade agreements have helped drive down the
wages and benefits of American workers and have eroded collective bargaining rights.
 

 
The TPP will make the race to the bottom worse because it forces American workers to compete with
desperate workers in Vietnam where the minimum wage is just 56 cents an hour.
 

 
4. Our ability to protect the environment will be undermined.
 

 
The TPP will allow corporations to challenge any law that would adversely impact their future
profits. Pending claims worth over $14 billion have been filed based on similar language in other
trade agreements. Most of these claims deal with challenges to environmental laws in a number of
countries. The TPP will make matters even worse by giving corporations the right to sue any of the
nations that sign onto the TPP. These lawsuits would be heard in international tribunals bypassing
domestic courts.
 

 
5. Food Safety Standards will be threatened.
 

 
The TPP would make it easier for countries like Vietnam to export contaminated fish and seafood into
the U.S. The FDA has already prevented hundreds of seafood imports from TPP countries because of
salmonella, e-coli, methyl-mercury and drug residues. But the FDA only inspects 1-2 percent of food
imports and will be overwhelmed by the vast expansion of these imports if the TPP is agreed to.
 

 
6. Buy America laws could come to an end.
 

 
The U.S. has several laws on the books that require the federal government to buy goods and services
that are made in America or mostly made in this country. Under TPP, foreign corporations must be
given equal access to compete for these government contracts with companies that make products in
America. Under TPP, the U.S. could not even prevent companies that have horrible human rights
records from receiving government contracts paid by U.S. taxpayers.
 

 
7. Prescription drug prices will increase, access to life saving drugs will decrease, and the profits of
drug companies will go up.
 

 
Big pharmaceutical companies are working hard to ensure that the TPP extends the monopolies they
have for prescription drugs by extending their patents (which currently can last 20 years or
more). This would expand the profits of big drug companies, keep drug prices artificially high, and
leave millions of people around the world without access to life saving drugs. Doctors without
Borders stated that “the TPP agreement is on track to become the most harmful trade pact ever for
access to medicines in developing countries.”
 

 
8. Wall Street would benefit at the expense of everyone else.
 

 
Under TPP, governments would be barred from imposing “capital controls” that have been
successfully used to avoid financial crises. These controls range from establishing a financial
speculation tax to limiting the massive flows of speculative capital flowing into and out of countries
responsible for the Asian financial crisis in the 1990s. In other words, the TPP would expand the
rights and power of the same Wall Street firms that nearly destroyed the world economy just five
years ago and would create the conditions for more financial instability in the future.
 

 
Last year, I co-sponsored a bill with Sen. Harkin to create a Wall Street speculation tax of just 0.03
percent on trades of derivatives, credit default swaps, and large amounts of stock. If TPP were
enacted, such a financial speculation tax may be in violation of this trade agreement.
 

 
9. The TPP would reward authoritarian regimes like Vietnam that systematically violate human
rights.
 

 
The State Department, the U.S. Department of Labor, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty
International have all documented Vietnam’s widespread violations of basic international standards
for human rights. Yet, the TPP would reward Vietnam’s bad behavior by giving it duty free access to
the U.S. market.
 

 
10. The TPP has no expiration date, making it virtually impossible to repeal.
 

 
Once TPP is agreed to, it has no sunset date and could only be altered by a consensus of all of the countries that
agreed to it. Other countries, like China, could be allowed to join in the future. For example, Canada and
Mexico joined TPP negotiations in 2012 and Japan joined last year.


I trust Bernie to tell the truth to the best of his ability. He is one of the few Senators in Washington who does not allow lobbyists into his office.

 

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So, TPP and Obama. Thoughts? [View all] babylonsister Apr 2015 OP
I want to think that this will go the way of the Keystone pipeline deal... NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #1
I have always looked at Bill Clinton and Barack Obama as old Rockefeller Republicans rurallib Apr 2015 #2
President Obama is a Democrat. He has excellent Democratic Accomplishments.. I don't care how Cha Apr 2015 #15
I apologize for offering an honest opinion rurallib Apr 2015 #18
Good for you. That's just it..an "opinion". Cha Apr 2015 #19
After watching his interview on Chris Matthews tonight, KMOD Apr 2015 #3
My problem is that Labor doesn't agree at all. That's one of them. So why? babylonsister Apr 2015 #4
I too, need to do more research. KMOD Apr 2015 #5
While I understand it, I think "labor" is afraid of change, not realizing Hoyt Apr 2015 #32
I think the people he considers to be the most knowledgeable on the subject say it's a good thing. PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #6
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #7
You are wrong, and I would alert babylonsister Apr 2015 #8
I will, however, alert. Drunken Irishman Apr 2015 #9
Thanks for alerting.. what an idiotic thing to say. Shows he knows not a damn thing about the Cha Apr 2015 #13
Sorry, bsis... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #12
Good to know I'm not the only one confused about this. Most of the arguments lamp_shade Apr 2015 #10
I'll be honest; Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #49
I have a background in shipping which gives me some... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #11
Thank you, TreasonousBastard. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #16
Interesting argument/opinion. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #27
Hey, bsis. sheshe2 Apr 2015 #14
"Will massive Trans Pacific trade deal hurt American workers? Labor Secretary Thomas Perez pushes Cha Apr 2015 #17
NAFTA done right in other words. ucrdem Apr 2015 #20
+1 treestar Apr 2015 #22
A link to what is available from US Senate right now, and can be downloaded. American workers are freshwest Apr 2015 #52
Thanks for your input, everyone. babylonsister Apr 2015 #21
Certain people trying to make this into a bogeyman treestar Apr 2015 #23
I take him at his word on it. lovemydog Apr 2015 #24
I'll take my faith in him over hyperbole, conjecture and machinations any day. great white snark Apr 2015 #25
I can only think of two words and one phrase, blackmail, bribery or drank the Kool-Aid. Cleita Apr 2015 #26
I will reserve my judgement until I see the final agreement. still_one Apr 2015 #37
I think he simply believes this is better than the status quo. DCBob Apr 2015 #28
For me it's simple....by and large Republicans want it and know whats in it. yourout Apr 2015 #29
That is inane logic. Perhaps if you read the agreement when it is available you can make your own still_one Apr 2015 #33
Let me clairify.....What was the last time Republicans did something that Dems did not want that.... yourout Apr 2015 #39
Good clarification. However, I do not think all Democrats in Congress are against the TPP. That still_one Apr 2015 #43
This might help. It doesn't really discuss the details of TPP, but it makes very clear that still_one Apr 2015 #30
But the full agreement will be huge. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #35
Actually, there will be at least 90 days for the public to weigh in through their representatives, still_one Apr 2015 #42
How would amending a trade agreement work? bornskeptic Apr 2015 #48
In a perfect world, with perfect agreements, guillaumeb Apr 2015 #50
The first thing to remember is the TPP isn't about trade. jeff47 Apr 2015 #31
We won't know for sure until we see the final agreement, which we will see before the debate or vote still_one Apr 2015 #34
You're assuming that a giant agreement can be meaningfully analyzed in a very short time. jeff47 Apr 2015 #36
I believe that there will be folks who will be able to specifically point out in the agreement, pros still_one Apr 2015 #40
And I believe in the tooth fairy. jeff47 Apr 2015 #46
Regardless, I need to re-evaluate my thoughts on this. I thought it still_one Apr 2015 #47
I wrote this as a response down thread. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #38
You quote that Congressional member cannot see specifics of the legislation, but that flies counter still_one Apr 2015 #41
Just an observation. The discussions in this thread are so much more civil than other areas, where still_one Apr 2015 #44
nice observation guillaumeb Apr 2015 #45
Excellent thread... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 May 2015 #53
President Obama is right on this trade agreement. Major Hogwash May 2015 #54
I like your answer, Major Hogwash. sheshe2 May 2015 #55
TPP is the whine du jour. Major Hogwash May 2015 #56
There is always something on the menu at DU, Major. sheshe2 May 2015 #57
Back in the day, we used to say DU's motto should be . . . Major Hogwash May 2015 #58
Roflol~ sheshe2 May 2015 #59
I'm not quite that old. Major Hogwash May 2015 #61
I find it very confusing, frankly. Obama clearly believes what he's saying, & I understand ... Hekate May 2015 #60
good post steve2470 May 2015 #62
Thanks. "Rational" and "global perspective" are qualities I have long ascribed to Obama... Hekate May 2015 #63
I just watched the entire interview on yahoo.com with the President steve2470 May 2015 #64
I appreciate this thread... BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #65
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