Barack Obama
In reply to the discussion: President Obama is not violating his liberal principles by defending the NSA. He is exercising them. [View all]Number23
(24,544 posts)'Cause they seem MIGHTY confused on that point.
This is an interesting read and thanks for posting it. I don't agree with it but I appreciate the analysis. I have disliked the Patriot Act since it was passed and contrary to the author, I do consider it an abuse of power.
The idea that this type of surveillance is illegal, unConstitutional etc. are the arguments of the clueless. The program NOW is legal, is regularly reviewed by Congress, has the support of both houses of Congress, and enjoys the support of large majorities of the American people. We may not like any of this but this is the REALITY of the situation. Frothing at the mouth as if this is new or screaming all day that "Obama = Bush" does fuck all and is the height of childish unproductivity.
And the lawsuits are already starting to come in, and they sound as clueless, uninformed and hysterical as so much of the garbage we've been reading on this web site lately:
A $3 billion class-action complaint by Mary Ann and Charles Strange of Philadelphia was believed to be the first civil case against the Obama administration since last week's blockbuster disclosure in published reports about the super-secret National Security Agency surveillance efforts.
...The Stranges have sued Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder, NSA director Keith Alexander, Verizon, government agencies and the judge who signed the secret order on phone monitoring.
...The lawsuit offered no specifics of any targeted surveillance. The Stranges based their allegations on "information and belief." http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/11/politics/nsa-court-challenges/index.html?iid=article_sidebar
What I'd really like to see is a concerted effort to get the Patriot Act repealed. Yes, I am aware that it has probably saved lives and if we'd had 10 more 9/11's since 9/11, alot fewer people would be up in arms over this, but I have never supported this law. Now that the cat's out of the bag for the apparently large numbers of people who apparently never even knew there was a cat, it would be great to capitalize on all of this with some public awareness on getting the Patriot Act repealed. It will take some time and the "Obama bad" crowd on BOTH SIDES will caterwaul as they always do, but I think it's the right thing to do.
And as usual, the aim of the Obama Bad crowd is off. This has to be done through Congress. So once again, the Big O has to put away his magic wand for another day.
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