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In reply to the discussion: Tired of fighting with fellow Dems over the NSA Surveillance issue? [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)10. He's already asked Congress to roll back his powers under the AUMF. But they haven't done that,
Last edited Sun Jun 9, 2013, 09:12 PM - Edit history (2)
regardless of their grandstanding, filibustering. They are inciting their base and demoralizing Democrats. This is a classic ratfucking operation as named by Donald Segretti and used ever since:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022974284#post53
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022974284#op
Because the GOP in the House and Senate are waiting for their guy to get into office, and use them to silence their opponents for good. Tom Delay's term 'permanent Republican majority' should ring a bell. They are not hiding their intention. How can anyone forget that or that they own the majority of the media?
Everything they have tried to transfer onto Obama as they are doing now, they have done. Some of their cabal has done prison time for it.
They would not allow necessary funding to close Gitmo in order to hurt Obama, and to fire up their base. They still claim his intention is to bring them here to commit terrorism. They finally admitted this year that they will not allow Obama to do it. But those who have their minds made up to blame Obama will keep on doing it because the media tells them it's the smart thing to do. An appeal few can resist.
The conservative billionaire owned media.
The faux media liberals are just libertarians working to depress our vote to get another GOP in office. Whatever they toss at Obama, the big target, also filters down to local elections. Here is an example of some real civil rights that are going to go away if we don't have the will to fight to hold or change state legislatures and representative majorities in the HoR or Senate:
A video was posted in which someone filmed Paul Ryan, a Koch brothers lackey all the way, meeting his followers and put it on youtube.
He began with the anchor baby argument, but at :55 in the video, he says their goal is to turn enough states red to get them to pass a repeal of the 14th Amendment. He framed it in terms of illegals because of welfare, but this much more dangerous than it first appears.
Those people ate it up, because that's how they get the lower in society to vote for what they want, division based on hatred. But consider the other clauses in the 14th upon which many of our rights depend.
In addition to the Reconstruction part of the Amendment there is Birthright Citizenship, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses. We know what their intentions on voting rights have been; their assaults on the poor and every kind of 'minority' civil rights. They wouldn't stop at ending birthright citizenship, or any form of gender rights, labor or environmental protections.
They want this country back to something far older, oppressive than most of us ever knew. Here is the video, the thread and my further comments. I hope that people will listen to this:
Paul Ryan Casually Drops This Slur And Shows The GOP's Effort To 'Reach Out' Is B.S.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017117146
My comment here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017117146#post3
Think two steps ahead, this is not just bigotry. They know that will garner attention of those who believe in discrimination and those of us who are resisting that. While we must resist, think long-term.
It's always about money and power with all the works of the Koch brothers, their candiates and ALEC.
This is what is being planned in the private rooms and country clubs across this nation. They have the money and a plan. We must mobilize and keep going, not get demoralized by every passing thing their media tells us. They are playing for keeps.
We had better get our facts right and hold on, stay united, or they will rule us with an iron hand. If anyone thinks they're kidding with their current attempts to ramp up wars, end voting, labor, woman and minority rights, they only have to look back on every outrage they've done and finally comprehend one thing:
That they will stop at nothing, absolutely nothing, to take down this government and install the Koch Kingdom.
Those conned cannot admit it. They began with a superior attitude looking down on those doing the work, but did not offer any workable solutions to the things they attacked.
The House can defund all of this activity today. Instead they are busy restricting women's rights and cutting off food aid to the poor, and refusing to ease the pain of the Sequester.
They agitated for these laws, called everyone who opposed them traitors, called for the death of those who opposed them in their media, thus passed the laws.
They could repeal them right now if they really cared about this but they are using this to drive Democrats to vote for Rand Paul, as they did in 2008 to support Ron Paul and to vote for the Tea Party in 2010. They are now peeling off those who care to vote for them in 2014 off this one issue. We've seen it here at DU in numerous OPs and replies.
They don't care about it. We do. That's how they con us.
Thanks for your insight.
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Tired of fighting with fellow Dems over the NSA Surveillance issue? [View all]
stevenleser
Jun 2013
OP
I dont think he's being unfairly criticized. I think people who have invested
darkangel218
Jun 2013
#1
People have the right to say anything they want about anyone at anytime. Doesn't mean they're right.
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#2
Thanks so much. I heard that somewhere. Please post a link to the transcript.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#12
Are you going to criticize the next loony Republican President who uses this for who knows what?
dkf
Jun 2013
#4
He's already asked Congress to roll back his powers under the AUMF. But they haven't done that,
freshwest
Jun 2013
#10
Also, I don't normally do this but I may post the transcript afterwards. I think this issue is
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#7
Please do, Steven. I'm sure most can read faster than the time listening will take.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#11
20 minutes to showtime. Note after 8pm it will be available at the same link in perpetuity nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#27