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LostOne4Ever

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5. I support Obama even if I don't support his position this time
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

I don't agree with Obama's position on this, but I also think fellow Dems are being somewhat unrealistic about the entire matter.

If he had not continued with a strong national security the republicans would have accused him of being weak on defense and putting peoples lives in jeopardy over trivialities. As much as I LOATHE this particular position he has made it where no dem can be accused of being weak on defense for many many years to come. That is a good thing.

The base is wanting him to act ideologically pure again and forgetting all the fearmongering the repubs did in the past and the political realities of the present. He had to make the decisions that he made.

This is not the "West Wing" where our political opponents are drooling morons (though many are). Or would these dems rather have Obama replaced with a republican who would not only expand the policies even further, but also have the belief that they can declare anyone who disagrees with them an enemy combatant?

That said, I hope Obama uses this situation to promote legislation to protect our privacy rights and restrict/end the drone program and repeal the patriot act. But I am sure the republicans would stop pretending to care about our rights and shoot that down in an instant.

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I dont think he's being unfairly criticized. I think people who have invested darkangel218 Jun 2013 #1
People have the right to say anything they want about anyone at anytime. Doesn't mean they're right. stevenleser Jun 2013 #2
IMHO, the facts arent with him. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #3
The government should be criticized if you don't like the program treestar Jun 2013 #8
Thanks so much. I heard that somewhere. Please post a link to the transcript. freshwest Jun 2013 #12
link treestar Jun 2013 #14
Thank you. Have K & R'd that thread. freshwest Jun 2013 #16
Yeah, they can criticize all they want but they Cha Jun 2013 #19
So post the facts. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #22
We have been posting the FACTS all day yesterday and the day before.. Cha Jun 2013 #23
Thank you for that, Cha. sheshe2 Jun 2013 #32
You're welcome, she.. no, sorry I didn't but, Cha Jun 2013 #33
It's in the BOG now, Excellent! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #35
thanks, she! I've been Cha Jun 2013 #36
I will look for that, thanks Cha~ sheshe2 Jun 2013 #38
Are you going to criticize the next loony Republican President who uses this for who knows what? dkf Jun 2013 #4
I'll discuss after the show airing. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #6
You sure have been a busy little bee haven't you? OKNancy Jun 2013 #25
I support Obama even if I don't support his position this time LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #5
He's already asked Congress to roll back his powers under the AUMF. But they haven't done that, freshwest Jun 2013 #10
Yeah, the Grifters are having a big hay day right now.. Yuck it, wastrels. Cha Jun 2013 #21
President Obama: Repeal the AUFM freshwest Jun 2013 #28
WOW, fresh! That's Some POST! Cha Jun 2013 #29
Thank you freshwest, sheshe2 Jun 2013 #37
+1000% Isoldeblue Jun 2013 #24
Also, I don't normally do this but I may post the transcript afterwards. I think this issue is stevenleser Jun 2013 #7
+1 nt MADem Jun 2013 #9
Please do, Steven. I'm sure most can read faster than the time listening will take. freshwest Jun 2013 #11
Please DO!! Thanks Cha Jun 2013 #20
I would appreciate that! emulatorloo Jun 2013 #26
Thanks for the heads up, steve. sheshe2 Jun 2013 #30
Thanks for the tip. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #13
When Chernobyl happened, my dad and uncle were listening darkangel218 Jun 2013 #15
Over Macho Grande? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #17
I have no clue what you meant by that. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #18
20 minutes to showtime. Note after 8pm it will be available at the same link in perpetuity nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #27
I am not fighting with anyone about it. grantcart Jun 2013 #31
It would be nice, if we were just dealing in Cha Jun 2013 #34
Steve … 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #39
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