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pat_k

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80. Horrific! I'm so sorry! I'm sure you have doctors attempting to diagnose the pain, but has this included...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PM
Oct 21

... specialists in rheumatology?? I can attest personally to how unbearable the pain of inflammatory disease can be.

As I posted to your thread earlier this month:

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Although gradual onset of Rheumatoid Arthritis is common, there are cases of "explosive" onset in "non-traditional" larger joints that can come on fast and resolve fast. There are also other inflammatory diseases that need to be investigated when a person is struck down with pain.

AI summary of various Rheumatoid presentations and mimics.

While classic rheumatoid arthritis (RA) typically has a gradual onset, sudden or acute onset is possible, especially in older adults. Other conditions, including reactive arthritis and palindromic rheumatism, can also cause sudden joint pain and are often mistaken for RA. I sure hope so, but in case not, I highly recommend you insist on a referral.

Rheumatoid arthritis (RA)

Although RA usually develops slowly over several weeks to months, an explosive polyarticular onset, with pain and swelling in multiple joints over 24 to 48 hours, is possible.

Acute-onset RA: Some cases, especially in older adults, can appear suddenly and intensely, often affecting larger, more proximal joints like the knees and shoulders.

Widespread symptoms: Along with joint pain and swelling, sudden-onset RA can also cause flu-like symptoms such as fatigue, fever, and a general feeling of being unwell.

Palindromic rheumatism (PR)

This rare form of inflammatory arthritis is characterized by sudden, recurrent attacks of painful swelling in one or more joints.

Rapid onset and resolution: Attacks begin and end quickly, lasting anywhere from a few hours to several days.

Between attacks: Joints appear and feel normal, with no lasting damage.

Progression to RA: While PR is distinct from RA, it's considered an autoimmune-related disease, and up to 50% of people with PR may later develop RA.

Reactive arthritis

This is an autoimmune response that can cause sudden-onset inflammatory arthritis after a bacterial infection.

Triggering infections: Common triggers include gastrointestinal infections (like food poisoning), sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Typical joints: Pain and stiffness most often affect the knees, ankles, feet, and heels.

Additional symptoms: Eye inflammation (conjunctivitis) and urinary problems are also common.

Seronegative spondyloarthropathies

This group of conditions can be difficult to differentiate from RA, particularly if they appear suddenly.

Psoriatic arthritis (PsA): This can cause joint pain and stiffness that mimics RA. Distinctive symptoms that might differentiate PsA include sausage-like swelling of fingers or toes (dactylitis), nail changes, and lower back pain.

Ankylosing spondylitis (AS): Though primarily affecting the spine, AS can also cause pain and stiffness in the pelvis.

Other mimics

Several other conditions can present with sudden, widespread joint pain that may be mistaken for RA:

Viral arthritis: Viruses like parvovirus B19 or Chikungunya can cause acute, multi-joint pain. Symptoms usually resolve once the infection clears.

Lyme disease: This tick-borne illness can cause widespread joint pain and other symptoms similar to RA. Unlike RA, the pain can shift from joint to joint, and it is usually responsive to antibiotics.

Whipple's disease: This rare bacterial infection can cause arthritis that mimics RA, especially in seronegative patients. [/excerpt

The above is not comprehensive, but if your physician is not having these possibilities investigated, you may need to demand that they do.

Other things to investigate that don't fall into the inflammatory disease category: spinal stenosis, degenerative disk disease, or a more acute issue like spinal cord compression or transverse myelitis.

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I'm so sorry. I hope you will keep us posted on how you are doing, though. Scrivener7 Oct 21 #1
I'm so sorry. I hope you can get some relief. yardwork Oct 21 #2
Take care we can do it Oct 21 #3
I hate when my favorite people hurt. quaint Oct 21 #4
I am so sorry, LuckyCharms. sheshe2 Oct 21 #5
Sending you love and peace. PittBlue Oct 21 #6
How horrible! redwitch Oct 21 #7
Please take care Lucky and keep reaching out to us here if you're able. Diamond_Dog Oct 21 #8
Thinking of you Marthe48 Oct 21 #9
Hang in there, the world needs you. multigraincracker Oct 21 #10
🫂 mwmisses4289 Oct 21 #11
Oh Lucky, I hope you get some relief from the pain. debm55 Oct 21 #12
LuckCharms... pdxflyboy Oct 21 #13
I'm so sorry, LuckyCharns. I pray that you brer cat Oct 21 #14
I am so sorry, my friend UpInArms Oct 21 #15
I'm so sorry you're having to endure such pain. Lonestarblue Oct 21 #16
Keeping you in my prayers irisblue Oct 21 #17
Holding you in love and light, LC. Hope to see you soon. niyad Oct 21 #18
So sorry. I wish I had any useful advice at all, but this is beyond my experience. eppur_se_muova Oct 21 #19
Peace. Harker Oct 21 #20
Hang in there my good friend; take time to heal; be well. NNadir Oct 21 #21
Best wishes angrychair Oct 21 #22
Have you tried Acupuncture? dickthegrouch Oct 21 #23
I'm really sorry you're going through this LuckyCharms, JMCKUSICK Oct 21 #24
Good luck JoseBalow Oct 21 #25
I am so so sorry to hear this. Grumpy Old Guy Oct 21 #26
I cannot imagine what you're going through. Fla Dem Oct 21 #27
I'm so sorry! I just hope you can get some relief Ocelot II Oct 21 #28
Thinking of you KS Toronado Oct 21 #29
Crap!!!!! Reiki ?????? Karadeniz Oct 21 #30
I know this doesn't help, murielm99 Oct 21 #31
Sending love and healing vibes ms liberty Oct 21 #32
Neuropathy Pain here yankee87 Oct 21 #33
I'm so sorry!!! CaptainTruth Oct 21 #34
Dearest Lucky, Niagara Oct 21 #35
Holding you in my heart, LC. n/t TygrBright Oct 21 #36
We love you, Lucky Charms. ZZenith Oct 21 #37
oh no!!!! Well take care of yourself and dont give up... samnsara Oct 21 #38
I'm so sorry about your pain LittleGirl Oct 21 #39
I wouldn't be surprised if you've got nerve pain, which for me... Trueblue Texan Oct 21 #40
LC, are you on Duloxetine? LudwigPastorius Oct 21 #41
Take care. We understand your need for a break. sinkingfeeling Oct 21 #42
I'm so sorry, LuckyCharms karin_sj Oct 21 #43
Oh no LuckyCharms!! BComplex Oct 21 #44
My heart goes out to you in this awful pain, my dear LuckyCharms . . . CaliforniaPeggy Oct 21 #45
Sending strength and love democrank Oct 21 #46
May Blessed Relief Come to You FrankTC Oct 21 #47
Thank you for your words and share Mz.LadyRe22 Oct 21 #48
Welcome to DU young lady! KS Toronado Oct 21 #74
I'm so overwhelmed with the welcome ...thank you Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 5 #120
Absolutely! Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 6 #125
Have you had your ankle seen and cared for? vanlassie Oct 21 #86
Wishing you a full recovery! I had a tri fractured ankle back in 2012. I gope you've been seen by someone!... electric_blue68 Oct 22 #91
Welcome to DU, Mz.LadyRe22! calimary Oct 22 #93
Thank you.....yes I know how safe and smart and caring this "corner "of the world is.....I have read you all for so long Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 5 #119
"Someone is always there"......I love that Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 5 #121
She's a longtime DU member who can always be counted on to make sense, and show heart. calimary Nov 5 #122
Yes! To Skittles.....and thank you for words of wisdom Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 6 #123
Wonderful welcome! Mz.LadyRe22 Nov 6 #124
I am so very sorry, LuckyCharms Grim Chieftain Oct 21 #49
So sorry, LC peggysue2 Oct 21 #50
I'm so sorry to read about your suffering. The problem with narcotics for pain is how quickly you develop a tolerance Vinca Oct 21 #51
I am so sorry you are struggling. pandr32 Oct 21 #52
Sorry SuzyandPuffpuff Oct 21 #53
That's a terrble thing to endure! I'm 72. When I was around 16 I had... electric_blue68 Oct 22 #92
So sorry for the pain, Lucky Charms peacebuzzard Oct 21 #54
Bless you, dear LuckyCharms FakeNoose Oct 21 #55
I try to empathize, but I come up short Oeditpus Rex Oct 21 #56
Healing vibes on the way to you, LC SheltieLover Oct 21 #57
Gentle hugs BoomaofBandM Oct 21 #58
I'm so terribly sorry you are going through this. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 21 #59
Hugs and healing vibes to you. SunSeeker Oct 21 #60
Hang in there LC! OAITW r.2.0 Oct 21 #61
May Things Get Better for You Grumpy Old Woman Oct 21 #62
Oh, God, LC, I'm so sorry. Sending healing vibes, but I also want to mention vitamin C, which can help highplainsdem Oct 21 #63
Lucky, you know how I like to joke around True Dough Oct 21 #64
I am so sorry you are in so much pain. rhiannon55 Oct 21 #65
Woah, what a scary fall, rhiannon55!... electric_blue68 Oct 22 #94
I'm so sorry you are going through this, Lucky Charms. Clouds Passing Oct 21 #66
Hurry back my friend malaise Oct 21 #67
Hope you and your doctors can find a solution for your pain. 70sEraVet Oct 21 #68
So sorry for you, Lucky... MiHale Oct 21 #69
This sounds just awful and unbearable. 1WorldHope Oct 21 #70
Yes an advocate can help navigate the medical system Lifeafter70 Nov 6 #127
Peace to you and yours, LuckyCharms. denbot Oct 21 #71
Sending love markie Oct 21 #72
Good grief! 2naSalit Oct 21 #73
heartfelt best wishes to you Evolve Dammit Oct 21 #75
I hope you are able to return to us soon. yellow dahlia Oct 21 #76
Sending you healing prayers. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are a treasure here skylucy Oct 21 #77
My heart is breaking for you synni Oct 21 #78
Luck Charms stage left Oct 21 #79
Horrific! I'm so sorry! I'm sure you have doctors attempting to diagnose the pain, but has this included... pat_k Oct 21 #80
Call your doctor, Lucky. Get something so you can rest. Please. Just call. ASAP. I wish our love could ease your pain. ancianita Oct 21 #81
Dear LC, I suffer from chronic pain, sometimes horribly, sometimes better. Coventina Oct 21 #82
Sending healing vibes. Sogo Oct 21 #83
I feel for you - last yr I fell on my back womanofthehills Oct 21 #84
I am so very sorry, Lucky Charms. HeartsCanHope Oct 21 #85
Oh no, I am so sorry. summer_in_TX Oct 21 #87
I know pain first hand. Indescribable!!!!! BigmanPigman Oct 22 #88
Have you tried hypnosis? mnhtnbb Oct 22 #89
So Sorry, Lucky Charms! I hope either one or more of the suggestions offered start to give you some relief! electric_blue68 Oct 22 #90
You come here often you hear. applegrove Oct 22 #95
I'm so sorry, Lucky Charms ReRe Oct 22 #96
So sorry for what you're having to endure. Words seem inadequate for such terrible pain, but chia Oct 22 #97
Dear LuckyCharms gademocrat7 Oct 22 #98
Update. LuckyCharms Oct 22 #99
My cousin was on prednisone Marthe48 Oct 22 #101
I am laughing! LuckyCharms Oct 22 #102
They shared the blow by blow with me Marthe48 Oct 22 #104
Marthe... LuckyCharms Oct 22 #105
You and Mrs. Charms are the best! Marthe48 Oct 22 #112
From my experience with prednisone, you will urinate like crazy irisblue Oct 22 #107
Your doctor could also consider pregabalin Mosby Oct 22 #108
That Pred push 😤 I'm so sorry. Sending ease your way Clouds Passing Oct 22 #110
It's nasty business. LuckyCharms Oct 22 #111
I've been on iv bags of the stuff. Makes you feel like you're going out of your mind. Clouds Passing Oct 22 #114
.... Niagara Oct 22 #113
Good luck!! electric_blue68 Oct 22 #116
Re:Insulin Elessar Zappa Oct 27 #117
You know, I'm not sure. LuckyCharms Oct 27 #118
Sending you all my best vibes, LC. mobeau69 Oct 22 #100
Peace and strength. LoisB Oct 22 #103
Being in constant pain is the worst thing ever. greatauntoftriplets Oct 22 #106
It keeps getting worse. LuckyCharms Oct 22 #109
Hang in there! Csn you call an ambulance? electric_blue68 Oct 22 #115
I'm so sorry Lifeafter70 Nov 6 #126
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