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Big Blue Marble

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18. This is not politics, this is war.

Reply to wnylib (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:44 PM

Oct 2023

Disinformation is a major weapon of war. Did you trust the Pentagon during the Iraq War?
I did not.

You suggest a narrative for blaming Hamas. Actually, Israel is blaming Palestinian Jihad not Hamas.

There is a counter narrative that would suggest that Israel caused this catastrophe. There are
multiple witnesses that recorded the sounds of the incoming missiles from fighter jets.
These missiles apparently have a signature sound. That will be have to be analyzed as well
as eye witness accounts as well as fragments of the weapons. I think that the degree of damage
will be the most telling.

And from CNN:

While Israel says "IDF does not target hospitals,” the United Nations and Doctors Without
Borders say during the past 10 days, Israeli airstrikes have struck medical facilities, I
ncluding hospitals and ambulances.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-17-23/h_4bc7254975df24223a9d77d7c7bba219

I think it is best to wait. As I said neither side has credibility.

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Arab ambassadors speak at the United Nations following Israeli strike on a hospital in Gaza [View all] Uncle Joe Oct 2023 OP

Isn't there info out there now showing it wasn't Israel, but a failed rocket from Gaza? chia Oct 2023 #1

yes mymomwasright Oct 2023 #2

In a way. They need to get a neutral party out there to determine it. Israel has released videos JohnSJ Oct 2023 #5

Only if you call denials from the IDF, information. N/T Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #9

Because the denials from Hamas are more trustworthy? wnylib Oct 2023 #12

Neither side is trustworthy. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #16

My mention of the OP title was not meant to be a criticism of you specifically. wnylib Oct 2023 #17

This is not politics, this is war. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #18

The Qatari government which houses the leaders of Hamas. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #3

They're calling for a ceasefire. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #4

Who calling for ceasefire?........................ Lovie777 Oct 2023 #6

The ceasefire would have to be for both sides. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #8

That is good, but they are also assigning blame, when it has NOT been determined. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #7

I believe they will and Hamas has stated in the video on this thread that they would release Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #10

Obviously we will see, because I suspect President Biden will try to facilitate something to that JohnSJ Oct 2023 #11

I agree, Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #13

When this situation has finally quieted down, Netanyahu will not be head of the government. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #14

I'd say there's about an 85% he will remain. LuvLoogie Oct 2023 #19

The polls sure don't indicate that, and as for your supposition how could he have survived with the JohnSJ Oct 2023 #20

It will probably be a few years before this settles down to the point where Gazans are housed again. LuvLoogie Oct 2023 #22

I don't think they will be able to eradicate Hamas. I think they will be able to neutralize them in JohnSJ Oct 2023 #23

No, Hamas did not say that they will release the hostages if there is a ceasefire. wnylib Oct 2023 #15

It's not at all clear that it was an Israeli strike. Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #21