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11. There is much going on here behind the scenes, IMHO. Who is talking to survivors and

Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:13 PM

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their attorneys? Does the WH know what the survivors are planning on doing, what the survivors know? Are there DOJ/FBI whistleblowers? Are there former Biden DOJ officials who know exactly what is in the files? What kinds of pressure are they receiving that is forcing this stance by congress to do something/anything? And what guarantees do they have that this will turn out OK for the GOP and WH? What we are seeing must be part of some serious crisis management team with a plan? I'm aware of the Epstein/dem investigation tactic but that could be a slender reed that may ultimately fail, maybe legally but certainly politically.

I still don't think they'll release any report detrimental to the WH (inc Epstein, but also climate, economy, immigration, etc). If they do release something halfway suspect, it's because the unredacted, unclassified, original files are much worse than what's released.

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Senate suddenly passes the Epstein bill just hours after it cleared the House [View all] demmiblue Tuesday OP

I still don't believe TSF will actually sign it...under investigation or some other wacked out excuse... wcmagumba Tuesday #1

Veto it? He might and with the same vote, that veto will be over ridden. He's not getting to skip his tine in the barrel marble falls Tuesday #2

I hope you are right.... wcmagumba Tuesday #4

Oh, that's right. They have the votes to override it. ananda Tuesday #25

he may sign the bill or pocket veto the damn thing rampartd Tuesday #35

And then they put right back up and there is no more veto exposure. Pocket veto is a delaying tactic a President uses .. marble falls Yesterday #61

I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans who were C Moon Tuesday #40

Wouldn't it look particularly ridiculous to veto something... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #57

Not in TACO land. marble falls Yesterday #62

Oh i'm sure he will!! bluestarone Tuesday #5

True, but it's a horrible look and will add to the undermining of Trump's standing among all but his core. TheRickles Tuesday #8

Trump has been cornered into a lose-lose position Random Boomer Tuesday #24

Why do you say sunk? Gordcanuck Tuesday #50

This bill was craftily written TexLaProgressive Tuesday #31

I agree.. Born Free Tuesday #55

They may claim it, but there is no investigation active on it right now. Congress wants it released and passed a bill. marble falls Yesterday #63

I think they can override it this time. Demsrule86 Tuesday #9

All they have to do is repeat their vote. all 100 Senators vote for the release, more than 2/3s the House. Veto proof. marble falls Yesterday #64

He might not but as it stands, it will become law even without Trumps signiture because riversedge Tuesday #14

Well, next step anyway. Stand by for further drmphf obstruction. Leaks, please! electric_blue68 Tuesday #3

Senators don't want to have their votes on the record? IronLionZion Tuesday #6

Doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised the house bluestarone Tuesday #12

Clay Higgons is on record as the only one voting against it IronLionZion Tuesday #15

I give Clay Higgins credit. As despicable a person as he is Wiz Imp Tuesday #34

I want their votes on record. doublethink Tuesday #7

Actually it does. Wiz Imp Tuesday #37

I think we might just get a veto proof bill... Demsrule86 Tuesday #10

and then a scrubbed file SamuelTheThird Tuesday #17

There's too many people who know what are in the files Tribetime Tuesday #36

There's still the Epstein family and what they have. Joinfortmill Tuesday #41

There is much going on here behind the scenes, IMHO. Who is talking to survivors and wiggs Tuesday #11

It's been a helluva day for the felon. Now comes his and Bondi's big tell. It's all on them. ancianita Tuesday #13

"The trump era might be ending." calimary Yesterday #58

Right? ancianita Yesterday #59

Will Trump soon receive a visit from top Mepublicans callous taoboy Yesterday #60

Show us how much money is being spent on any purported ongoing investigation dickthegrouch Tuesday #16

All investigations have been stopped when pedo the felon fired Comey's daughter. Justice matters. Tuesday #39

Reminder: Trump Apparently Could Have Authorized the Complete Release With or Without Strings, At Any Time! The Roux Comes First Tuesday #18

Exactly! Wiz Imp Tuesday #38

He still could this very minute. Justice matters. Tuesday #42

So if he doesn't sign it will it become law anyway? Or will that be a pocket veto and it stops the bill? Botany Tuesday #19

That internet rumor has been proven 100% FALSE Wiz Imp Tuesday #43

So if Mike Johnson adjourns the house for the year by November 27 then the bill is blocked? Botany Tuesday #47

He doesn't even have to adjourn for the year. Wiz Imp Tuesday #48

Anybody with a scintilla of a brain can see that Trump is way way way deep into the Epstein/Putin/Trump ... Botany Tuesday #49

I'm confident that attempts to "scrub" the files will not work Wiz Imp Tuesday #53

That is not necessarily so. onenote 22 hrs ago #65

If TSF doesn't sign the bill... WestMichRad Tuesday #46

Outside of cheating and dirty media, the real culprit was sick, racist and misogynist voters. MLAA Tuesday #51

Wow! I didn't see that coming! I thought they'd stall for months and months Warpy Tuesday #20

All we know for sure is Sneederbunk Tuesday #21

This is all a setup AverageOldGuy Tuesday #22

Yes, of course, but he's not fooling anyone else than his 33% rabid cultists. Justice matters. Tuesday #44

I hope nobody is expecting to see any info related to Trump in the files. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #23

Good for Schumer! mcar Tuesday #26

Unanimous consent decreed - the Senate didn't even have time to vote FakeNoose Tuesday #27

More proof they've been scrubbed clean. Come on Mark Epstein, give us whatever you have. Scrivener7 Tuesday #28

Hot potato bucolic_frolic Tuesday #29

I expect we'll find out that during Sunday brunch somebody Turbineguy Tuesday #30

Or leaked them! TheRickles Tuesday #33

This is just the beginning popsdenver Tuesday #32

Four hundred reams of blank paper. The end. twodogsbarking Tuesday #45

The fix is in. choie Tuesday #52

Maybe the GOP will try to claim tRump isn't a republican next. nt BootinUp Tuesday #54

Void the Victim's NDAs Remball Tuesday #56