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fargone

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63. The White House explanation is plausible but not yet proven
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:08 PM
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Snopes has yet to resolve the issue (https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/11/17/white-house-flag-on-ground/). The photo does not definitely establish that the flag is on the ground. It is too dark and there are shrubs (the metaphor is brilliant, though and should be used as much as possible). There are at least 2 people behind the flag. Are they secret service or grounds keepers, I don't know. Newsweek said the flag appeared to be on the floor which is silly because there is no floor outside. There is a corner of a possible container at the bottom of the pole. That could be easily confirmed by a daylight photo. If the White House weren't incompetent they would have already done that. It would be an easy show and tell. There are lots of online pictures of the erection ceremony but the ground around the base was clear at that time, no shrubs, no lights, nothing. Was it unusually windy NWS data could confirm that. Obviously the helicopter brings additional wind. If it is standard protocol for a certain wind speed and helo landing there should be other examples. The lights pointing up in the sky might be shut off for helo landings. Don't want to accidentally blind the pilot.

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This image captures his entire presidency fujiyamasan Monday #3
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It could go down in history PatSeg Monday #23
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precisely. file under B.See Monday #35
The damage control they're trying to spin now, is that D. Spaulding Monday #6
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Newsweek: riversedge Monday #7
Good to have more links. Thanks. BlueWavePsych Monday #8
The White House explanation is plausible but not yet proven fargone Tuesday #63
He doesn't give a shit about the flag. If no one was around he would wipe his ass with it. Autumn Monday #9
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I believe it would be better described as a metaphor. flashman13 Monday #11
I see the problem here... BurnDoubt Monday #13
That thing has been desecrating the flag for years. Melanie too. catbyte Monday #14
Desecrating the flag. lastlib Monday #22
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OMG! O. M. G.! calimary Monday #25
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He is obviously focused on BarbD Monday #16
Karma Justice matters. Monday #19
Yes. Cut the nasty old man some slack. not fooled Monday #20
Nope!!! calimary Monday #26
Was this one of Asshole's new mega-flag poles? n/t SpankMe Monday #17
"" AllaN01Bear Monday #18
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Before I saw the picture markodochartaigh Monday #34
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"Trump's advocacy for Old Glory" tanyev Monday #41
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The source is MEDIAite, whose reporters and editors produced this article progree Monday #48
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This place sets the tone! leanforward Monday #53
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