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In reply to the discussion: Trump Considers Reopening 'Insane Asylums' in Crusade Against Crime [View all]Wiz Imp
(6,874 posts)24. From the University of Chicago Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience
https://psychiatry.uchicago.edu/news/mike-pence-said-liberals-emptied-mental-health-hospitals-1960s-they-didnt-act-alone
Would it be possible to reinstitutionalize the seriously mentally ill today? Experts agreed it would be unrealistic to return to mass institutionalization.
The law likely wouldnt allow it, given several U.S. Supreme Court decisions that raised the threshold for involuntary commitment, including OConnor v. Donaldson in 1975 and Addington v. Texas and Parham v. J.R. in 1979. "It would probably be impermissible to continue to hold someone who has been successfully treated with medication, unless it can be shown they will go off their meds once released," Vanderbilts Slobogin said.
Even if mass institutionalization were to return, its unlikely to reduce violence enough to outweigh the financial and societal costs, said Linda A. Teplin, vice chair for research in the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern Universitys Feinberg School of Medicine. Because the vast majority of people committed would be nonviolent, she said, it would neither be cost-effective for reducing crime nor beneficial for the health of the people who would be institutionalized.
"Substance use, inequality and lack of opportunity, and access to guns are the major drivers of violence," rather than mental illness in a vacuum, Cohen said. Blaming serious mental illness "is just a diversion tactic."
The law likely wouldnt allow it, given several U.S. Supreme Court decisions that raised the threshold for involuntary commitment, including OConnor v. Donaldson in 1975 and Addington v. Texas and Parham v. J.R. in 1979. "It would probably be impermissible to continue to hold someone who has been successfully treated with medication, unless it can be shown they will go off their meds once released," Vanderbilts Slobogin said.
Even if mass institutionalization were to return, its unlikely to reduce violence enough to outweigh the financial and societal costs, said Linda A. Teplin, vice chair for research in the department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern Universitys Feinberg School of Medicine. Because the vast majority of people committed would be nonviolent, she said, it would neither be cost-effective for reducing crime nor beneficial for the health of the people who would be institutionalized.
"Substance use, inequality and lack of opportunity, and access to guns are the major drivers of violence," rather than mental illness in a vacuum, Cohen said. Blaming serious mental illness "is just a diversion tactic."
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Trump Considers Reopening 'Insane Asylums' in Crusade Against Crime [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Monday
OP
Trump does. He thinks immigrants seeking asylum are released asylum patients.
travelingthrulife
Monday
#11
It's exactly what Reagan did, and I can't imagine Trump being more humane than Reagan.
Ocelot II
Tuesday
#49
Take it from us Californians who watched it all unfold when Reagan was our governor
Hekate
Tuesday
#53
Reagan was gov. of California when he closed the asylums/hospitals, without the promised support system
Hekate
Monday
#40
Well, Reagan (as Governor) was largely responsible for the deinstitutionalization movement in California
Wiz Imp
Monday
#23
I mean. If Trump really wanted to go to heaven, reversing all the horrible shit done by Reagan (and himself)
SSJVegeta
Monday
#27
There has been some good various levels of mental heath housing in NYC from people I've occasionally met over some...
electric_blue68
Monday
#21
From the University of Chicago Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience
Wiz Imp
Monday
#24
Trump is like Reagan, constantly revisiting a halycon past that doesn't exist anymore
bucolic_frolic
Monday
#28
We really have the demented grampa "Back in my day!" bozo at the helm, huh?
Prairie Gates
Monday
#36
Why does he think we have an unlimited supply of funds for all these pet projects?
William Gustafson
Tuesday
#42
I agree with TACO. Re-open them all, build hundreds more " insane asylums " for every Republican politician
Bread and Circuses
Tuesday
#50
My mom used to be a social worker here in PA (worked for the state and then the city back in the '50s)
BumRushDaShow
Tuesday
#60