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16. Are people really Iran nuclear weapons program truthers? The whole point of Obama's JCPOA was to stop it.

Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:09 PM

Jun 2025

I'm really confused why I'm seeing comments as if Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. They do. The Obama administration famously negotiated a deal with Iran to dismantle it and stop it for a limited time. The idea was if that deal went well then Iran could be convinced to stop pursuing nuclear weapons indefinitely. This deal was also famously canceled (well, withdrawn from, technically) by Trump in 2018. And people are acting in disbelief that Iran restarted their program in earnest 7 years ago?

This is not secret information. Iran is a signatory to the NPT and thus have an obligation to not develop nuclear weapons. So of course they say they don't. And of course they're lying. I mean, I'm supposed to believe Obama spent years of effort and political capital to stop Iran from using nuclear electricity? How is this even a hard call to make on Democratic Underground? People would so readily believe that Obama is a fool that wasted time and energy than they would that a country holds "Death to America" as official policy is lying about their weapons program?

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It's funny the word "irrelevant" should come up in a context with Lil' Marko. Hugin Jun 2025 #5

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Rubio is irrelevant n/t Half-step Jun 2025 #13

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Grab a fucking uniform then, Rubio. You're on the front line. sakabatou Jun 2025 #15

Are people really Iran nuclear weapons program truthers? The whole point of Obama's JCPOA was to stop it. mathematic Jun 2025 #16

Rubio's comments make clear they did not iemanja Jun 2025 #18

Bush Jr went along with the WMD CON for much,much longer than this Bengus81 Jun 2025 #31

Nice, subtle goalpost move to say "near weaponization", instead of nuclear weapons program mathematic Jun 2025 #34

So Israel is now a rogue state with nuclear arms. So we should bomb them now? travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #35

Cool off iemanja Jun 2025 #36

This is simply a personal attack and addresses nothing I've said. nt mathematic Jun 2025 #37

So Iran wasn't close to a nuclear weapon iemanja Jun 2025 #17

Wow. At least Dubya considered it relevant enough to--you know-outright fucking LIE to the whole damn Karasu Jun 2025 #19

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So unfit for his post. BlueMTexpat Jun 2025 #27

An irrelevant "man"... Godot51 Jun 2025 #28

Kinda what Bush Jr and Cheney later said about Iraq too............. Bengus81 Jun 2025 #30

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Yep...and remember the always go to BS "yellow cake". Bengus81 Jun 2025 #33