Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

comradebillyboy

(10,926 posts)

30. Oh my, I am shocked to learn that the founding

Reply to dflprincess (Original post)

Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:16 PM

13 hrs ago

fathers weren't perfect 21st century enlightened leftists. They all had to make huge compromises to make the United States a reality.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Seeking Serenity

35 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Ken Burns "American Revolution" discussing Washington's slave owning [View all] dflprincess Monday OP

This is so well done JustAnotherGen Monday #1

I'm glad he's portraying the founders as the miscreants that they were. BannonsLiver Monday #2

Miscreants? How about fallible humans who were a product of the times they were living in? Rafi 14 hrs ago #18

You read it right - fucking miscreants. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #19

I don't think Burns would agree per se ITAL 14 hrs ago #22

That's great. BannonsLiver 14 hrs ago #25

I'm not sure I buy the "they were products of their time" argument when it comes to slavery. Aristus 14 hrs ago #20

+1 leftstreet 14 hrs ago #23

Some of them reviled slavery misanthrope 13 hrs ago #32

John Adams never owned a slave 31st Street Bridge 12 hrs ago #34

We are watching it now Tree Lady Monday #3

I'd hope that Burns respected Temporal historical relativism... WarGamer Monday #4

There are certain truths that transcend time. DemocratSinceBirth Monday #7

He's presenting facts that have been ignored for a long time nt dflprincess Monday #8

Like my husband says Tree Lady Monday #9

In my role as a historian Historic NY 14 hrs ago #26

Slave ownership by the Founding Fathers isn't exactly a secret. Paladin 14 hrs ago #24

My thought was the right wingers are gonna hate this. CanonRay Monday #5

That means it's good 31st Street Bridge 12 hrs ago #35

Hey, anyone know, what time do they repeat tonight? (early AM) Jack Valentino Monday #6

I thought it was tv only Tree Lady Monday #10

My TV guide says moondust Monday #11

Thanks, but seems it is already repeating on-air- here at 1:52 EST..... Jack Valentino Yesterday #13

Times for documentary Lydia Leftcoast 23 hrs ago #14

Streaming Episodes Available Now Tom_Foolery 19 hrs ago #17

The slavery mentions moondust Monday #12

I recall hearing about Patrick Henry Lydia Leftcoast 23 hrs ago #15

Any man can make himself a king Stacey Grove 22 hrs ago #16

I haven't watched this series yet (I'll binge it later), but... Happy Hoosier 14 hrs ago #21

Slavery never stopped GreatGazoo 14 hrs ago #27

Washigton did free his slaves by his Will Historic NY 14 hrs ago #28

Washington was a complicated character Retrograde 13 hrs ago #29

He found it hard not to grant him requests. Historic NY 13 hrs ago #31

The more I learned about Virginian Founding Fathers misanthrope 13 hrs ago #33

Oh my, I am shocked to learn that the founding comradebillyboy 13 hrs ago #30