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62. When you argue as you do, you've lost

Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:52 AM

18 hrs ago

"for purity and vanity and virtue-signaling reasons" "emotional ones or being motivated by wanting revenge against Democrats."

Sure, anyone that wants to thoroughly bury the Republicans for a good long time is obviously "virtue signaling", "emotional", and "wants revenge against Democrats"

Better to play it cautious, don't fight too strenuously, and continue to listen to the Third Way advice. It sure has worked wonders so far!

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NYC council member [Chi Osse] prepares Democratic primary challenge against Hakeem Jeffries [View all] GJGCA Monday OP

Need new blood yankee87 Monday #1

Excellent.... anciano Monday #2

Wholeheartedly agree Samael13 16 hrs ago #70

I will keep an eye on this guy he seems to be sharp. We need new blood if we are to do Autumn Monday #3

I look forward to the debates. N/T lapucelle Monday #4

There is no reason for Jeffries to waste his time with this guy. tritsofme Monday #12

DU is giving 2015-16 vibes. RandySF Monday #5

Yeah. And we know what happened in 2016. Callie1979 Monday #26

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 16 hrs ago #72

Hm, hmmm. Remember the 2008 "PUMA" crash out here? Seeking Serenity 16 hrs ago #74

You noticed that too? DFW 3 hrs ago #105

It would be better if the effort were spent ATTACKING REPUBLICANS... QueerDuck Monday #6

A Democrat is running for the same office another Democrat hold. How is that Autumn Monday #8

Oh please. Nice strawman. I never made that argument and you know it. QueerDuck Monday #11

It might be stupid to you but not to others. Dems can do more than one thing at a time. Autumn Monday #13

No, it's a stupid move. QueerDuck Monday #16

We have spent years " attacking Republicans" and keeping some people in office "for their wisdom." Autumn Monday #20

This is some Nina Turner level shit and sabotage... QueerDuck Monday #21

Nice. You can't come up with a rebuttal so insult me. LOL but now I know Autumn Monday #22

How amusing. You think I'm talking about you when I'm not. QueerDuck Monday #23

What amusing is you post to me and insult me but expect me to believe your not talking about me ? Autumn Monday #25

I have no such expectation that you will believe a conversation with you is not also about you. QueerDuck Yesterday #42

So Nina Turner is not one of your idols? She is a huge mouthpiece Nixie 20 hrs ago #52

It seems that no one has learned a thing from last year. Callie1979 Monday #28

What about 6+mil who voted Biden leftstreet Monday #40

Those are the ones I'm talking about. Has anyone asked them? Callie1979 Yesterday #45

Thank you. QueerDuck Yesterday #44

No, it has nothing to do with "progressive enough" LR3 19 hrs ago #56

Oh ffs. Jbraybarten 21 hrs ago #50

And we, thankfully, don't live in a system where pointing out the stupidity of such vanities... QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #69

Y'know, that's one of the reasons we have primary elections instead of nominating committees Seeking Serenity 16 hrs ago #78

You're the one talking about purity. Jbraybarten 14 hrs ago #88

Why can't we do both Samael13 16 hrs ago #71

We can... it's just stupid to do so. Attack and smear the ones who deserve it (the GOP) not Democrats. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #73

I agree we need to flip republican seats Samael13 16 hrs ago #75

We certainly had a lot of folks who didnt want a primary in 2024 Callie1979 Monday #27

I don't have a clue. I think primaries are very healthy for our system. Had we had one perhaps Autumn Monday #34

I'm about 75% sure we wouldnt. But they wouldve had to have been straight with us Callie1979 Yesterday #46

Looks like there are some that don't want one in 2026 either. MichMan 14 hrs ago #84

So my opinion (a Brooklyite in a neighboring district) Dorian Gray Monday #32

Mahalo, Dorian Gray! I'm way out here across Cha Monday #41

Thanks, Cha Dorian Gray 9 hrs ago #95

Thank YOu, DG... There's a report out Cha 8 hrs ago #96

PS I found it... Cha 8 hrs ago #97

A Primary is not an attack. A Primary is how Democracy works. Too bad some don't understand that. Weird. Scrivener7 Monday #31

Yes it is. Of course it is. It's a way to bloody-up an incumbent... QueerDuck Yesterday #43

LOL LR3 19 hrs ago #57

Similarly, the idea that anyone thinks its worthwhile to WASTE money challenging a popular incumbent... QueerDuck 19 hrs ago #60

When you argue as you do, you've lost LR3 18 hrs ago #62

The non-ironic use of the phrase "Third Way" reveal much. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #63

Yup, anyone that wants Democrats to fight harder LR3 17 hrs ago #64

Fortunately, for now, those voters are motivated to support Democrats... QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #66

Your strawman building abilities are world class! LR3 15 hrs ago #79

Meh! Ho-hum... I'm just telling it like it is. QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #85

If you don't like the way the American system works, I don't know what to tell you. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #76

Expect the same people here rushing to defend Jefferies or party leadership SunImp 13 hrs ago #90

Absolutely. And also, WTF? This is how our Democracy works and we have people on Democratic Underground Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #93

Wait, Jeffries (or others) is ordained? Nobody has the right to run? WTF. Weird indeed. Jbraybarten 21 hrs ago #49

Nice strawman. I never said anything about anyone's "right to run". QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #68

Show your cards. aocommunalpunch 12 hrs ago #92

I read this and thought, "Good question!" But then I thought, "But who cares, really?" Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #94

Yep, straw man indeed. I guess you alternate that with your bringing pUrIty tEsTs Jbraybarten 13 hrs ago #91

Everyone has the right to run. DFW 3 hrs ago #106

I Hope Leader Hakeem Jeffries Wins... Cha Monday #7

So, AOC should have never primaried Joe Crowley. right? MichMan Monday #36

This has Nothing to do with AOC... I'm talking Cha Monday #37

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Monday #39

Whataboutism is a rhetorical tactic used to deflect criticism by responding with a counter-accusation... QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #47

I understood the poster's statement as a general opposition to any incumbent facing a primary challenge MichMan 23 hrs ago #48

Thanks for checking in. I take well your point that... QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #54

. MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #100

No, you got called out. Is it ok to run against incumbents or not. Period. FFS. Jbraybarten 21 hrs ago #51

A big LOL & a FFS back atcha! 😂🤣 🙄 QueerDuck 19 hrs ago #55

Yup. When Trump says "the Democrats" and then you have those Nixie 19 hrs ago #59

This is crazy. What do YOU call the Democrats? That's our name. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #77

"bAcK aT yOu" Not a "pUrItY gAmE." No need to add straw men. Oof. Jbraybarten 17 hrs ago #65

Yawn. 🥱 QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #67

lol... yeah, It does get so Cha 4 hrs ago #104

Yawn indeed. Jbraybarten 14 hrs ago #87

And, it Turns Out that AOC Doesn't want Osse, Cha 15 hrs ago #81

I'm eager to hear the accusations that AOC is "against free elections" or claims that she... QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #86

Oh it's Ridiculous.. like anyone knows Cha 14 hrs ago #89

NY-08: Against Mamdani's Wishes, Gen Z Councilman Plans to Challenge Jeffries Celerity Monday #9

I think Mamdani is hoping for an endorsement from Jefferies. I don't think he needs it. nt Autumn Monday #10

Jeffries did endorse Mamdani, after months of meetings and foot-dragging Celerity Monday #14

What a biased portrayal. W_HAMILTON Monday #15

I've never seen an election SocialDemocrat61 Monday #17

It suggests a certain level of insecurity and weakness... QueerDuck Monday #18

It's grievance shopping SocialDemocrat61 Monday #19

Mamdani seems to understand this endorsement timing since he refused Nixie 20 hrs ago #53

Hakeem Jeffries will be a great speaker mcar Monday #24

Pelosi was a great Speaker, she picked and mentored Jefferies, it is a stupid idea to vote out Jefferies. dem4decades Monday #29

especially for his district Dorian Gray Monday #33

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Monday #30

And, Pres Obama.... I remember him Cha Monday #38

I'll pass on this primary. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #35

Bingo MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #99

He'll get thumped. Halicarnassus 19 hrs ago #58

He will, but it he pushes Jeffries to the left, that's fine Deminpenn 19 hrs ago #61

Respectfully disagree. Halicarnassus 15 hrs ago #80

I don't see this moving any needles one way or the other Torchlight 14 hrs ago #82

I recall when David Hogg was a vice chair of the DNC, he was advocating primary challenges to quite a few incumbents. MichMan 14 hrs ago #83

Seems like most folks in favor of primarying Jeffries MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #98

I regret.... DFW 2 hrs ago #107

I don't care who runs but RandySF 6 hrs ago #101

Does it ever NOT get ugly when a DS is involved? PeaceWave 6 hrs ago #102

Lotta comments Halicarnassus 4 hrs ago #103