Heather Cox Richardson: Americans are saying "Hell No!" to Trump "fascism"...and it's working [View all]

Nov 17, 2025 The Best People with Nicolle Wallace
Heather Cox Richardson sees a significant realignment happening in our democracy right now. And the return of human agency. She joins Nicolle Wallace for a wide-ranging conversation on “The Best People.” Cox Richardson highlights the growing conflict between the citizenry and an executive branch that shows a bent toward aristocracy over democracy but sees progress happening right now. “Listen, there's two ways we could go. We could in fact embrace fascism fully, which is absolutely the direction that this government is going…
Or we could do what Americans before us have done and say, hell no…And it certainly feels to me like that's the direction we're going.
Heather says the reclaiming of Democracy is the work of everyday people and happening now in new and unseen communities but cautions history tells us it’s a “process, not an instant fix.”
She talks about the need for an FDR moment. What we can learn from Abraham Lincoln’s rise and why Senate Republicans went underground like “a bunch of freakin moles.” You’ll also see Heather turn the tables and interview Nicolle!