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In reply to the discussion: Pro-Trump owner shocked as grocery store that thrived for 43 years goes bankrupt under his tariffs and policies [View all]jfz9580m
(16,173 posts)I still feel sorry for people like these because our media really is shit.
When I step outside the left bubble that people like me are supposedly in, what is said is such rubbish. If you are someone like this and probably barely follow the news, pick up common wisdom by osmosis, follow mainstream drivel, I am not surprised that you would see an extremist like Trump as relatively normal.
The centre is so right-shifted you would need a decoder unless you had issues you cared about enough to know. If you really are just voting your own interests it is going to be hard to know who is on your side with the way our media is so ..wishy washy.
And its going to get so much worse with Bari Weiss etc.
This is why people who have issues they care about (the environment/science/education, poverty/inequality/healthcare, abortion rights, animal rights, womens rights, racial equality, civil rights, regulation, corruption, democracy broadly, separation of church and state) are savvier about what is better universally and for you. Thats typically the left overall. Or you care about what is worse for most people and the planet, but is something can really milk (religion, deregulation and drivel in general)-that is what contemporary conservatism has become. Hyperlibertarianism for industries sans civil r libertarianism and apocalyptic religiosity.
In the middle are people like these who really have no clue what anyone stands for. After all, if you dont follow specific issues with zeal to see how people vote etc, its then taking politicians at face value. And these are complicated enough issues that apparently people get confused. That must be it..
I dont get it.. but well..once someones face is being eaten, I still feel bad when its people like these who are very misinformed rather than the sleazy and vile tech creep barons. Those people dont deserve any compunction. E.g. Marc Andreessen..thats a vile human being and with this embrace of Fuentes by the right, he is going to regret having gone full on IBM and the Nazis. Fuentes is a proper Nazi and thats who they and that movement are normalizing.
If you really want to see people in bed with leopards its Ellison, Andreessen, Ackman, Weiss etc..Fuentes does not dial back his virulent anti-semitism. And now he is increasingly accepted on the right.
Thats all true of the women of the right as well. Misogyny is generally on the rise, but it is really thriving on the far right.
When you are an oligarch who cares more about deregulation than embrace of Nazis who hate you, wtf is that? Thats truly thinking that oh yeah they will rough up everyone else and we will be safe in our bunkers except life doesnt work that way. No wonder they all invest in doomsday bunkers. Dumbest people on the planet, the oligarchs:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/mega-bunkers-tech-billionaires-why-builder-b2814490.html
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/02/the-apocalyptic-delusions-of-the-silicon-valley-elite
I think the dems and left need to spotlight these extremely unsympathetic oligarchs who are the real force behind the GOP.