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ShazzieB

(21,999 posts)
37. You remember correctly.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:19 PM
Nov 14

I did some googling, because I remembered what you did but couldn't recall any further details. I found out some interesting stuff...

In December 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch marched into the Comet Ping Pong pizza restaurant in Washington, DC, armed with an AR-15 and a handgun, with the evident intention of rescuing the nonexistent children who were supposedly being held and abused in the restaurant's nonexistent basement. He was eventually arrested and was convicted of armed assault and sentenced to four years in prison, followed by three years of supervised release. (Interesting footnote: the judge who sentenced him was Ketanji Brown Jackson, then a federal judge on the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.)

Earlier this year, Welch, now out of prison, was shot during a traffic stop, in which he was the front seat passenger. Cops recognized him as someone with an outstanding arrest warrant for violating probation and attempted to arrest him, upon which he pulled a handgun from his jacket, pointed it at an officer, and refused to put the gun down when ordered to do so. He ended up getting shot, because, well, that's what cops do when somebody points a gun at one of them and refuses to drop the weapon. (He died from his injuries a couple of days later.)

The first thing I pulled up on my Google search was a bunch of articles on the traffic stop. Here's one of them: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pizzagate-gunman-killed-police-traffic-stop-north-carolina-rcna187082

More details about the pizza Gate shooting incident are here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/north-carolina-man-sentenced-four-year-prison-term-armed-assault-northwest-washington

Welch sure sounds like a fine, upstanding example of MAGA manhood, doesn't he? I'm sure the only reason he wasn't at the January 6th insurrection is that he would have still been behind bars at the time.

Seriously, he sounds like a deranged sicko, but i can't help seeing him as one more person whose blood is ultimately on the Orange Hellbeast's hands. Schlump has gotten where he is by convincing unstable and ignorant individuals like Welch that he gives a crap about them and manipulating them to do his bidding. Don't get me wrong; I hold people like Welch responsible for their poor choices, but I also hold Schlump responsible for his unscrupulous use of people who are stupid, unwell, or both to do violent things for his personal benefit.

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The spell MIGHT be breaking but they'll still democratsruletheday Nov 14 #1
Fair Point Chasstev365 Nov 14 #2
Demoralize them enough and they will stay home. ms liberty Nov 14 #3
I think that is the best we can hope for Tree Lady Nov 14 #11
That is what they used to do. I grew up around them and they were never engaged politically. BUT, LiberalArkie Nov 14 #36
No. They will vote Wifes husband Nov 14 #14
EXACTLY LymphocyteLover Nov 14 #32
One thing we always have to keep in mind with these folks: calimary Nov 14 #29
As a lifelong Texan TexLaProgressive Nov 14 #35
But blubunyip Nov 15 #41
The ones who I know Jkanad Nov 15 #43
What will probably happen is they'll condemn Trump, but make excuses for the rest of the GOP, patphil Nov 14 #4
I doubt it D00ver66 Nov 14 #5
Admitting to the truth hurts and they will make excuses forever and deny their hate until they die. efhmc Nov 15 #45
Pizza parlor guss Nov 14 #6
The stupid: it burns! Chasstev365 Nov 14 #7
You remember correctly. ShazzieB Nov 14 #37
Well said and reported, ShazzieB... I didn't Cha Nov 14 #40
You're correct. Beacool Nov 14 #38
The was one of our fine North Carolina rednecks, if I recall correctly. OldBaldy1701E Nov 15 #44
They will resent the person who revealed they were duped more than they resent the one who duped them. ChicagoTeamster Nov 14 #8
That's my experience, too. not fooled Nov 14 #13
Exactly!!! niyad Nov 14 #24
They fear you will say "Wait til I tell everybody!" GreenWave Nov 14 #31
Not just Trump, they've been lied to consistently for 15 years 24 hours a day. Initech Nov 14 #9
Cognitive Dissonance 2na fisherman Nov 14 #10
They have to be personally afraid PATRICK Nov 15 #46
Nice, but DownriverDem Nov 14 #12
Think long and hard about that scenario, let's play it out. gab13by13 Nov 14 #16
Okay Overriding DownriverDem Nov 14 #19
Even IF the Senate over-rides his veto, TSF can refuse or delay release until scotus can hear the issue. Then wiggs Nov 14 #20
I'd like to hear their excuse for why the Epstein files need to be classified. Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 15 #42
The House and Senate could override a veto. Wiz Imp Nov 14 #18
If Trump is innocent he will sign it and watch Clinton and other Dems go down librechik Nov 14 #33
If you have the time and inclination DFW Nov 14 #15
One of the simple basics PATRICK Nov 15 #47
Show them that billboard: (from a X post) Justice matters. Nov 14 #17
For the twitterless, it's also posted on Instagram FakeNoose Nov 14 #39
in their world, transgressions by the alpha male are part of the package, understandable and forgivable. They wiggs Nov 14 #21
Anyone who believed that pizza parlor store is an imbecile Martin Eden Nov 14 #22
I'm stealing that. marble falls Nov 14 #23
So you believe Hillary Clinton ran a pedophile ring KS Toronado Nov 14 #25
The spell breaking is going to be exceedingly rare. There is too much sunk cost for most of them. RockRaven Nov 14 #26
Perhaps they'll Hang Him. BurnDoubt Nov 14 #27
Well done malaise Nov 14 #28
Drip, drip, drip.... frogstar0 Nov 14 #30
what is alex fucking jones saying. is trump a crisis actor now? pansypoo53219 Nov 14 #34
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