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snot

(11,381 posts)
96. I can think of MANY e.g.'s.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:16 PM
Nov 14

Republicans have succeeded in pushing the Overton Window WAY to the right by being unafraid to persistently shout even the most extreme conservative tropes.

Where were the Dems, other than Bernie, shouting about the need for Medicare for All or a public option? If Obama had been out there pounding the case for why we needed a public option, public support for it could have at least given him leverage in negotiating the ACA; instead, he took it off the table before negotiations even began.

Where were the Dems in opposing the law that made it impossible to discharge educational debt in bankruptcy? Biden proudly backed the change.

Where were the Dems in opposing the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which made it possible for investment bankers to gamble with grandma's retirement savings? B. Clinton proudly backed that change; he also override the recommendation of his own Chair of the Commodities Futures Trading Comm's recommendation that credit derivatives, a financial innovation at the time, should be regulated – a decision that fantastically multiplied the losses in the Great Financial Crash of 2008.

Where were/are the Dems in opposing the massive consolidation of media ownership? Clinton happily backed that, too (via his enthusiastic support for the Telecom Act of 1996).

How many Dems have raised strenuous, persistant objections to the evisceration of labor protections through the years?

Are any Dems arguing against the continuing mass surveillance of innocent citizens by the NSA, or is it “out of sight, out of mind”? It’s still on MY mind, and Dem politicians should be making sure it stays on all of ours, in light of the escalating abuses we’re seeing from Trump as he goes after former “enemies,” immigrants, and protesters.

How many Dems are screaming for restoration of antitrust enforcement in the face of the massive consolidation and unfair trade practices of amazon and other megacorporations?

I'm glad the Dems are walking as well as talking about racial, ethnic, and gender-related identities; but for decades, most have acceded with barely a peep of objection to a plethora of changes that have enabled our current wealth and income gaps. Even after the 2008 crash, too few Dem voices were enthusiastically raised in support of Liz Warren's CPFB, which was pathetically weak water in comparison to the protections that we used to enjoy thanks to the Wall St. regulatory regime installed after the Great Depression and which for 50 years had effectively eliminated the boom-&-bust cycles from which the 1% have so gloriously profited.

"A map of the world that does not include Utopia is not worth even glancing at, for it leaves out the one country at which Humanity is always landing. And when Humanity lands there, it looks out, and, seeing a better country, sets sail. Progress is the realisation of Utopias."
–– Oscar Wilde, "The Soul of Man Under Socialism" (1891).

If we're not willing even to TALK about what we actually deserve and what it would take to get there, instead meekly being “reasonable" and lowering our expectations, we’ll never get a system that actually works for us!

“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”
–– Frederick Douglass, "West India Emancipation" speech, Aug. 3, 1857.

We're not asking for utopia; we just want justice and a standard of living commensurate with wealth we've created through our own honest work. I don't trust anyone who says it's "unreasonable" for us to expect this; I want my representatives to demand it and work for it every single day.
I don’t want to “persist” only in the sense of eking out a minimal existence through desperate measures; I want representatives that persistently demand much more every single day.
When it’s this easy to turn establishment Dems’ own slogans against them, something’s seriously wrong.

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2 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Right on Easterncedar Nov 10 #1
Let me rec and second AKwannabe Nov 10 #39
The OP is perfectly stated Bluetus Nov 10 #86
How about we replace Schumer for a start, then move on from there. dem4decades Nov 10 #2
I received two pieces of marketing mail on Saturday. Frasier Balzov Nov 10 #4
😂😂😂😂 Well done. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #6
Instead, we're just left with the image shelshaw Nov 10 #16
Yes. Replacing Schumer has to happen. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #45
"I don't care if NYC doesn't represent the whole country. The Mamdani template should be used." J_William_Ryan Nov 10 #3
How about a leader that inspires the base? Can we have that? dem4decades Nov 10 #7
Here I thought that the Mamdani victory gab13by13 Nov 10 #13
He didn't win because he was a democratic socialist misanthrope Nov 10 #87
We should have leaders who truly represent us Grim Chieftain Nov 10 #42
My idea for leader is Chris van Hollen. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #49
Great answer, thank you. dem4decades Nov 10 #50
I understand that is the counter and appreciate the respectful reply. OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #9
How do you think Schumer plays across America? dem4decades Nov 10 #11
Well, if AOC runs against him, if he runs, gab13by13 Nov 10 #14
I'm not saying AOC should be the leader either, but someone? dem4decades Nov 10 #19
I am a strong supporter of Murphy. He is a great communicator. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #52
Are you asking me? I don't think he inspires confidence in the majority of the base... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #15
Unrec LearnedHand Nov 10 #62
Kick! Clouds Passing Nov 10 #5
Well said. A clear, concise and consistent message is needed. Watch and learn from Bernie Raven123 Nov 10 #8
Also well said. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #10
There was a time when Republicans had no overwhelming power. avebury Nov 10 #12
I agree with you in principle. The Republicks had their plan, plus........... mjvpi Nov 10 #33
I like the idea of a daily presser at a specific time. Hope22 Nov 10 #17
That did work well in Illinois. murielm99 Nov 10 #20
That's what they pay the dozens of kacekwl Nov 10 #21
If they don't know how to capitalize on the (essentially free) use of social media... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #29
The Dems need to publicize it! Hope22 Nov 10 #23
Social media, especially YouTube... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #27
Also we can't just be reactive, hoping folks recoil at the GOP so hard they vote Dem Arazi Nov 10 #18
And yet the orange monster has recently doubled down on his threats to SS and Medicare. Hope22 Nov 10 #26
i depend on social security and medicare, rampartd Nov 10 #57
These are all great suggestions FakeNoose Nov 10 #22
YES! They most certainly are! OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #30
I don't think that it's a matter of being "progressive" other than being a great communicator w/a great message Jbraybarten Nov 10 #24
Not sure how I feel about that... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #31
What I'm saying isn't about a progressive or centrist message, but that we need to have good messengers & good messaging Jbraybarten Nov 10 #37
Yes we do. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #41
yeah Jbraybarten Nov 10 #58
Thank you OneGrasRoot. Just so you know, Kieth Olbermann, someone who knows something about flashman13 Nov 10 #25
Agree 100% n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #35
Another perspective Freddie Nov 10 #28
Be FOR something Wild blueberry Nov 10 #32
K&R spanone Nov 10 #34
"Make good trouble." BarbD Nov 10 #36
Yes - they should be at the microphones KT2000 Nov 10 #38
This. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #40
I agree - Dems need to be in front of the microphone constantly. There are some other great messengers, yellow dahlia Nov 10 #43
I agree w/everyone you mentioned. We DO have some great people... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #46
I'm going to start writing (more) letters and encourage them to do just what you said. n/t yellow dahlia Nov 10 #54
Your 4 cents worth is quite impressive to me. Prairie_Seagull Nov 10 #44
That's very kind of you, and I agree with your points as well. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #47
A bunch of COPIUM bullshit Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #48
.... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #51
If you cared, you would stop trying to justify what the Democrats just did. Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #53
Two things: H2O Man Nov 10 #61
I've been fighting the fight for as long if not longer Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #64
Ah, I see... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #67
Gracious. H2O Man Nov 10 #72
Hmmmm.... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #63
Maybe I misunderstood your post but this part in particular Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #66
I'm obviously not communicating well (not a new development...lol) OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #68
Ok, I apologize. Clearly did not understand your intent. Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #69
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Nov 10 #73
I think you completely misread what OneGrassRoot is saying. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #80
Fight JCMach1 Nov 10 #55
YES ms.pamela Nov 10 #56
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 10 #59
... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #65
Preach it! LearnedHand Nov 10 #60
"I/WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT." OldBaldy1701E Nov 10 #70
We shouldn't have to figure out.. OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #75
Oh, I agree with you. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 10 #76
Exactly. These programs have been financially supported by the people. Hope22 Nov 10 #79
I agree totally, BUT... Wednesdays Nov 10 #71
Say what you will about Cuomo, but during Covid, when no one else was out there Scrivener7 Nov 10 #78
Yes I do! n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #84
My point is to bypass them... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #81
Exactly! happy feet Nov 10 #74
Agree with every point. SO well said! Scrivener7 Nov 10 #77
They do! Google daily press democrats! Tesha Nov 10 #82
It's not being done effectively then... OneGrassRoot Nov 10 #83
Love it! Joinfortmill Nov 10 #85
My 2 cents... Question: Wasn't the Nov 4 landslide win enough to prove that Democrats are doing the work? ancianita Nov 10 #88
Well, that was unnecessarily condescending AF... OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #89
You take offense where not intended. I hear you. I just offered some factual context to consider. ancianita Nov 11 #95
I can think of MANY e.g.'s. snot Nov 14 #96
Hmm... 2naSalit Nov 11 #90
I agree... OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #91
We don't elect the best and brightest. We elect NewHendoLib Nov 11 #92
THAT is an excellent point. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #93
Don't know why they haven't been doing this. yardwork Nov 11 #94
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