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MontanaMama

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54. Yep.

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:05 PM

Nov 12

We are being gaslit by our own party leaders into believing this was somehow a good move on their part. My health insurance for my husband and me will be over $2000 per month with a $10,000 per person deductible if subsidies aren’t extended. I guess we are winning however!

I have zero reason to believe Schumer and the rogue senators will stand up for abortion rights and they’ll hand rethugs their requested restrictions on a silver platter. How will corporate Dems spin that?

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So as I wake this morning and what no vote, no food stamps... [View all] Demsrule86 Nov 12 OP

Look, we won! Let's gather up our treasure! usonian Nov 12 #1

Your post shows in a photo what my post says in writing. gab13by13 Nov 12 #3

Great photo and great writing. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #5

Credit where credit is due. usonian Nov 12 #16

The chess players had to know the Gop Demsrule86 Nov 12 #4

Indivisible primary campaign to replace cowardice with backbone. With excerpt below. usonian Nov 12 #15

Watch the MAGAt votes roll in MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #100

A handful of Senate Democrats are following the Schumer strategy. gab13by13 Nov 12 #2

Great post Demsrule86 Nov 12 #7

So, women will be expected to pay the "price" for continued ACA subsidies for all? Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #26

I despise those who engineered this. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #48

Why would he plan it MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #101

Since we will be blamed, our new coalition Demsrule86 Nov 12 #11

It is just so disappointing. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #47

To think Susan Sarandon's comments are now the Senate Minority Leader's view Sympthsical Nov 12 #59

I don't see how our huge victories last week Tribetime Nov 12 #6

Hello... been there. Nice place. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #8

I'm originally from Cleveland BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #22

Ohio in the 70s and 80s was great. Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #55

The 70's and 80's were brutal. The owner Demsrule86 Nov 12 #63

Yes BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #66

How wonderful. I must pick your brain about Demsrule86 Nov 12 #71

Severance Hall? Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #104

I think so. Saved stuff as I took my daughters with Demsrule86 Nov 13 #106

It is in University Circle BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #109

In order to save health care we needed to continue Demsrule86 Nov 12 #9

I guess we need to learn to play chess. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #10

Healthcare met its doom on Nov 5, 2024 Martin Eden Nov 12 #12

Not true. We could have fought this. The senators and Schumer were wrong. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #13

Agreed. 10 more days, and Thune would have been in schumers office Volaris Nov 12 #18

I think so too. This is a disaster. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #19

Why? onenote Nov 12 #32

Really? Demsrule86 Nov 12 #58

Can I take you up on your bet about Trump keeping the SNAP crisis and not paying? onenote Nov 12 #86

It's so much easier to shit all over Democrats. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #102

I Wouldn't Be Surprised if SNAP Was Finished! BBbats Nov 12 #87

That talking point Cirsium Nov 12 #83

10 more days and the Airlines would have stormed the GOP caucus leaders on the Hill Attilatheblond Nov 12 #40

Thats exactly the reason. Thune (and some House republicans) would have taken the ACA funding AS A MERCY. Volaris Nov 12 #93

It was on the ballot, and the con's plan was not a secret. Quiet Em Nov 12 #39

Too bad the FAFO fools won't be the only who suffer. Martin Eden Nov 12 #41

It looked like capitulation Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #14

Democrats declaring a capitulation did the republicans work for them onenote Nov 12 #34

We did capitulate and no matter who Demsrule86 Nov 12 #74

Did you buy food this week? onenote Nov 12 #78

The dig at liberals is uncalled for. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #49

What dig at liberals? Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #98

My mistake ... sorry. I used to think like that Demsrule86 Nov 13 #111

Watching Lawrence last night carry water for Billsdaughter Nov 12 #17

I was pissed too. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #46

And that is exactly what he did... Billsdaughter Nov 12 #51

Why Do I Believe Most Dems Serve The Same Masters? BBbats Nov 12 #88

I think it may be true. 20 billionaires went against Demsrule86 Nov 13 #112

Just now I watched that segment from O'Donnell's show Martin Eden Nov 12 #62

And we got nothing but more demands, threats and gloating. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #81

Here's a different perspective that is helpful to keep a balanced view: BComplex Nov 12 #20

Not if she is defending this. So no thanks Demsrule86 Nov 12 #50

I hope you feel better Demsrule Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #21

Similar story... OneGrassRoot Nov 12 #23

We can't lose it permanently... we can't. Demsrule86 Nov 13 #107

I have a Medicare... a very good plan. In Demsrule86 Nov 12 #53

I imagine setting up the board would be easy but I've yet to see any one win it. Autumn Nov 12 #24

One thing all leaders should know Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #25

Yeah, I'm no politician but I would think that would be engraved in stone somewhere. Autumn Nov 12 #27

Yep, and that's faulty thinking Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #30

Tweedledum or Tweedledee what is the difference ? republianmushroom Nov 12 #65

Hell, after supreme courts continued stalling, it wouldn't surprise me if bluestarone Nov 12 #28

Constitution 101 onenote Nov 12 #29

Well, looks like he can stall for 10 days. bluestarone Nov 12 #33

He'll sign it immediately onenote Nov 12 #35

OK. we'll see. bluestarone Nov 12 #37

Trump signs bill ending shutdown. onenote Nov 12 #105

I saw that. Now has ALL bluestarone Nov 13 #108

It will vary by state -- the money will be available, but because of the partial payments, it may take as much as a week onenote Nov 13 #110

Trump does not care about the law BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #38

The Christian Nationalists have been going for a national abortion ban TBF Nov 12 #31

I am still so very angry at the caving. hamsterjill Nov 12 #36

Whatever Schumer is/is not doing behind the scenes, his communication failures compel removal Arazi Nov 12 #57

I couldn't agree more. hamsterjill Nov 12 #68

Why do you say "we didn't get SNAP? onenote Nov 12 #42

I heard on TV that the Supreme Court has temporarily blocked the administration Autumn Nov 12 #44

Yes. But the OP was about the legislation onenote Nov 12 #52

Do you think that new congressperson will be sworn in today? n/t Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #56

Yes Probably between 4 and 6 pm, prior to a vote on the bill. onenote Nov 12 #73

Oh no, I had no idea, that's why I asked Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #76

The OP was 100% correct when they said "what no vote, no food stamps" Autumn Nov 12 #67

there is no such threat onenote Nov 12 #75

Well excuse the hell out of me But please split hairs. Again. What do you think Tillis, Schumer and his masterful Autumn Nov 12 #80

It's hardly "splitting hairs" onenote Nov 12 #82

Thank you. hamsterjill Nov 12 #85

That still isn't an excuse for posting misinformation, intentionally or otherwise. onenote Nov 12 #89

Well, it's all over social media that THAT is what's going to happen. hamsterjill Nov 12 #90

If its all over social media, and I haven't seen it, its a bunch of know nothings spreading misinformation onenote Nov 12 #92

Okay, calm down. hamsterjill Nov 12 #94

I'm perfectly calm. And I know the difference between an opinion and a fact. onenote Nov 12 #96

Are people being fed TODAY? hamsterjill Nov 12 #69

Would they be fed today without the agreement on a bill to end the shutdown? onenote Nov 12 #79

Well, they aren't getting any of that today, and Democrats already caved. hamsterjill Nov 12 #84

So using 42 million americans hunger as leverage is okay with you? onenote Nov 12 #91

Because the Democrats shouldn't have started it if they weren't going to finish it. hamsterjill Nov 12 #95

So you see no benefit from forcing the repubs to oppose extension of the ACA enhanced benefits. onenote Nov 12 #97

Yesterday Rick Wilson said from his experience he knew that Democrats are gullible. Ya think? flashman13 Nov 12 #43

No they are not gullible. There's a difference between gullible and complicit. Autumn Nov 12 #45

Seriously? MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #99

Yep. MontanaMama Nov 12 #54

And people wonder why Bettie Nov 12 #77

Someone posted food stamps became obsolete as a term 22 years ago. GreenWave Nov 12 #60

It might have but it's used all the time with some media and the fucking republicans. Why make the terms Autumn Nov 12 #70

A lot of truth here. IMO republianmushroom Nov 12 #61

DURec leftstreet Nov 12 #64

Bookmarking to follow the discussion. yellow dahlia Nov 12 #72

I don't remember Lawrence saying MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #103