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31. The Christian Nationalists have been going for a national abortion ban

Wed Nov 12, 2025, 10:38 AM

Nov 12

for quite a while. I see these people around me here in Texas. And if things keep going the way they have been, with dems caving, they will get it.

I'm going to have to take a break from this website again, because I cannot deal with the folks excusing the cave. We had Trump right where we needed him after clobbering him in off-year elections, and they proceeded to throw away that political capital by caving.

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So as I wake this morning and what no vote, no food stamps... [View all] Demsrule86 Nov 12 OP

Look, we won! Let's gather up our treasure! usonian Nov 12 #1

Your post shows in a photo what my post says in writing. gab13by13 Nov 12 #3

Great photo and great writing. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #5

Credit where credit is due. usonian Nov 12 #16

The chess players had to know the Gop Demsrule86 Nov 12 #4

Indivisible primary campaign to replace cowardice with backbone. With excerpt below. usonian Nov 12 #15

Watch the MAGAt votes roll in MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #100

A handful of Senate Democrats are following the Schumer strategy. gab13by13 Nov 12 #2

Great post Demsrule86 Nov 12 #7

So, women will be expected to pay the "price" for continued ACA subsidies for all? Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #26

I despise those who engineered this. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #48

Why would he plan it MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #101

Since we will be blamed, our new coalition Demsrule86 Nov 12 #11

It is just so disappointing. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #47

To think Susan Sarandon's comments are now the Senate Minority Leader's view Sympthsical Nov 12 #59

I don't see how our huge victories last week Tribetime Nov 12 #6

Hello... been there. Nice place. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #8

I'm originally from Cleveland BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #22

Ohio in the 70s and 80s was great. Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #55

The 70's and 80's were brutal. The owner Demsrule86 Nov 12 #63

Yes BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #66

How wonderful. I must pick your brain about Demsrule86 Nov 12 #71

Severance Hall? Diamond_Dog Nov 12 #104

I think so. Saved stuff as I took my daughters with Demsrule86 Nov 13 #106

It is in University Circle BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #109

In order to save health care we needed to continue Demsrule86 Nov 12 #9

I guess we need to learn to play chess. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #10

Healthcare met its doom on Nov 5, 2024 Martin Eden Nov 12 #12

Not true. We could have fought this. The senators and Schumer were wrong. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #13

Agreed. 10 more days, and Thune would have been in schumers office Volaris Nov 12 #18

I think so too. This is a disaster. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #19

Why? onenote Nov 12 #32

Really? Demsrule86 Nov 12 #58

Can I take you up on your bet about Trump keeping the SNAP crisis and not paying? onenote Nov 12 #86

It's so much easier to shit all over Democrats. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #102

I Wouldn't Be Surprised if SNAP Was Finished! BBbats Nov 12 #87

That talking point Cirsium Nov 12 #83

10 more days and the Airlines would have stormed the GOP caucus leaders on the Hill Attilatheblond Nov 12 #40

Thats exactly the reason. Thune (and some House republicans) would have taken the ACA funding AS A MERCY. Volaris Nov 12 #93

It was on the ballot, and the con's plan was not a secret. Quiet Em Nov 12 #39

Too bad the FAFO fools won't be the only who suffer. Martin Eden Nov 12 #41

It looked like capitulation Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #14

Democrats declaring a capitulation did the republicans work for them onenote Nov 12 #34

We did capitulate and no matter who Demsrule86 Nov 12 #74

Did you buy food this week? onenote Nov 12 #78

The dig at liberals is uncalled for. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #49

What dig at liberals? Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #98

My mistake ... sorry. I used to think like that Demsrule86 Nov 13 #111

Watching Lawrence last night carry water for Billsdaughter Nov 12 #17

I was pissed too. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #46

And that is exactly what he did... Billsdaughter Nov 12 #51

Why Do I Believe Most Dems Serve The Same Masters? BBbats Nov 12 #88

I think it may be true. 20 billionaires went against Demsrule86 Nov 13 #112

Just now I watched that segment from O'Donnell's show Martin Eden Nov 12 #62

And we got nothing but more demands, threats and gloating. Demsrule86 Nov 12 #81

Here's a different perspective that is helpful to keep a balanced view: BComplex Nov 12 #20

Not if she is defending this. So no thanks Demsrule86 Nov 12 #50

I hope you feel better Demsrule Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #21

Similar story... OneGrassRoot Nov 12 #23

We can't lose it permanently... we can't. Demsrule86 Nov 13 #107

I have a Medicare... a very good plan. In Demsrule86 Nov 12 #53

I imagine setting up the board would be easy but I've yet to see any one win it. Autumn Nov 12 #24

One thing all leaders should know Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #25

Yeah, I'm no politician but I would think that would be engraved in stone somewhere. Autumn Nov 12 #27

Yep, and that's faulty thinking Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #30

Tweedledum or Tweedledee what is the difference ? republianmushroom Nov 12 #65

Hell, after supreme courts continued stalling, it wouldn't surprise me if bluestarone Nov 12 #28

Constitution 101 onenote Nov 12 #29

Well, looks like he can stall for 10 days. bluestarone Nov 12 #33

He'll sign it immediately onenote Nov 12 #35

OK. we'll see. bluestarone Nov 12 #37

Trump signs bill ending shutdown. onenote Nov 12 #105

I saw that. Now has ALL bluestarone Nov 13 #108

It will vary by state -- the money will be available, but because of the partial payments, it may take as much as a week onenote Nov 13 #110

Trump does not care about the law BeerBarrelPolka Nov 12 #38

The Christian Nationalists have been going for a national abortion ban TBF Nov 12 #31

I am still so very angry at the caving. hamsterjill Nov 12 #36

Whatever Schumer is/is not doing behind the scenes, his communication failures compel removal Arazi Nov 12 #57

I couldn't agree more. hamsterjill Nov 12 #68

Why do you say "we didn't get SNAP? onenote Nov 12 #42

I heard on TV that the Supreme Court has temporarily blocked the administration Autumn Nov 12 #44

Yes. But the OP was about the legislation onenote Nov 12 #52

Do you think that new congressperson will be sworn in today? n/t Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #56

Yes Probably between 4 and 6 pm, prior to a vote on the bill. onenote Nov 12 #73

Oh no, I had no idea, that's why I asked Just_Vote_Dem Nov 12 #76

The OP was 100% correct when they said "what no vote, no food stamps" Autumn Nov 12 #67

there is no such threat onenote Nov 12 #75

Well excuse the hell out of me But please split hairs. Again. What do you think Tillis, Schumer and his masterful Autumn Nov 12 #80

It's hardly "splitting hairs" onenote Nov 12 #82

Thank you. hamsterjill Nov 12 #85

That still isn't an excuse for posting misinformation, intentionally or otherwise. onenote Nov 12 #89

Well, it's all over social media that THAT is what's going to happen. hamsterjill Nov 12 #90

If its all over social media, and I haven't seen it, its a bunch of know nothings spreading misinformation onenote Nov 12 #92

Okay, calm down. hamsterjill Nov 12 #94

I'm perfectly calm. And I know the difference between an opinion and a fact. onenote Nov 12 #96

Are people being fed TODAY? hamsterjill Nov 12 #69

Would they be fed today without the agreement on a bill to end the shutdown? onenote Nov 12 #79

Well, they aren't getting any of that today, and Democrats already caved. hamsterjill Nov 12 #84

So using 42 million americans hunger as leverage is okay with you? onenote Nov 12 #91

Because the Democrats shouldn't have started it if they weren't going to finish it. hamsterjill Nov 12 #95

So you see no benefit from forcing the repubs to oppose extension of the ACA enhanced benefits. onenote Nov 12 #97

Yesterday Rick Wilson said from his experience he knew that Democrats are gullible. Ya think? flashman13 Nov 12 #43

No they are not gullible. There's a difference between gullible and complicit. Autumn Nov 12 #45

Seriously? MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #99

Yep. MontanaMama Nov 12 #54

And people wonder why Bettie Nov 12 #77

Someone posted food stamps became obsolete as a term 22 years ago. GreenWave Nov 12 #60

It might have but it's used all the time with some media and the fucking republicans. Why make the terms Autumn Nov 12 #70

A lot of truth here. IMO republianmushroom Nov 12 #61

DURec leftstreet Nov 12 #64

Bookmarking to follow the discussion. yellow dahlia Nov 12 #72

I don't remember Lawrence saying MorbidButterflyTat Nov 12 #103