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jfz9580m

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53. That AI narrative is such bs
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 04:39 AM
Nov 12

Last edited Wed Nov 12, 2025, 06:31 AM - Edit history (1)

I know how jobs are being “lost to AI” some and it’s not because of super competent AI or anything. It’s a hijacking of our rights and space by people who are selling out their colleagues and employees to those creeps in tech..

This is a false narrative about merit etc. I evaluate myself as a very mediocre scientist and pass at least the most basic Dunning Kruger metric. The problem is all the people who are gaming the system with bs and think they are awesome.

It is true that in science and medicine there is a real elite and a medium elite. But there are also people doing slipshod, lightweight shit and getting away with it and fucking over other bottom of the barrel types like yours truly. I am mediocre but at least I am not daft enough to represent slipshod and lightweight bs as awesome! They are the douchebags that shill for rubbish that awful and stupid GPT thing.

I feel indignant. The tech press is bs and it’s all such bullshit. Damn sleazy bottom feeders.
My experience so far of hearing about AI implementation is people telling me it’s heavily promoted and largely useless. It’s promoted by people who don’t do research themselves and are not students.

This is fucking Brawndo taking over society. When will be stop gullibly taking those creeps out of Si Valley at face value. The odds are heavily tilted in their favour and they promote emotive narratives that shut off people’s brains re evaluation of their actual credibility.

The problem is the real elite (e.g. Steve Chu) are not “good at business” (ie mostly scamming the public by now) nor at PR. And this moronic crowd - Zuck, Musk, Altman (that guy is such a douchebag and his mouth is open in most of his pictures)-they are not geniuses. They are douchebags. But they do know how to steal, lie and deflect. They are no different from Elizabeth Holmes. She was just worse at it.

I am not saying good AI couldn’t exist etc. There is legitimate stuff in tech. Take quantum computing. But most of this sleazy wealth transfer destroying scientific research or other jobs in the US is driven by GPT like junk I’d bet. Those people are full of shit.

Also, I hope no one ever sees this outside DU. I can’t help venting here sometimes -you guys are all I have ;-/..

But I don’t want to formally be to science what Taylor Lorenz is to journalism…lol..

The worst part about the shithole where I came across the rise of these junk technologies is that they probably cynically figure that many of us affected by their bs will just go on to become whatever the fuck an influencer is or leverage AI politically etc.

That’s why these people are unfit to work in anything related to human behavior or psychology. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the personalities of actual scientists as opposed to those tech creeps of Google, Facebook etc.

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It makes sense SO FAR TheFarseer Nov 11 #1
I still think inevitable lawsuits are going to slow the "self driving semi" train down. Callie1979 Nov 11 #4
even liberal arts degrees eventually pay off DBoon Nov 11 #2
Even more so in an AI World JCMach1 Nov 11 #18
As they always have Iris Nov 11 #21
I've been saying "learn a trade" my whole life. College is a scam Callie1979 Nov 11 #3
I've had the opposite experience Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #5
GO GREEN.... democratsruletheday Nov 11 #30
I graduated from college with zero debt. hunter Nov 11 #9
True enough about the non-career years of education biophile Nov 11 #10
I've recommended that to many kids. Get most of your hrs at the smaller cheaper places Callie1979 Nov 11 #22
Yes, good idea. biophile Nov 11 #27
Why are you parroting RW billshit? Happy Hoosier Nov 11 #47
Good for you; most dont have parents pay for their school. Trade school made me financially secure. Callie1979 Nov 12 #55
I perfectly cool with people learning a trade, if that's the best choice for them. Happy Hoosier Thursday #61
a lot of jobs now that require a degree Skittles Nov 12 #57
Companies requiring a bachelors degree for a job have dropped in recent yrs. Callie1979 Thursday #59
"Go to college! Learn to code!" used to be our reprose to workers complaining about automation, outsourcing, and... Lancero Nov 11 #6
If I were a junior engineer starting out Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #7
Good luck getting a junior engineering Boo1 Nov 11 #13
I'm a senior engineer in aerospace Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #14
I agree Boo1 Nov 11 #16
I disagree somewhat Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #19
Are you an engineer? Happy Hoosier Nov 11 #49
No Boo1 Nov 12 #50
Using AI to code is going to create all sorts of jobs for people who can maintain that code... hunter Nov 11 #15
Agree Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #20
I just don't want to be run over by a driverless truck... hunter Nov 11 #26
I cannot wait for the roads to be majority driverless vehicles. Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #31
That sounds dystopian to me. hunter Nov 11 #41
Do both. Trades and college. Don't make this a binary question. CoopersDad Nov 11 #8
It never hurts to be multi-competent! biophile Nov 11 #12
Exactly CD....as I said before, my kid LOVES democratsruletheday Nov 11 #32
Yes, equal time should be given to technical school & college. Callie1979 Nov 12 #56
The belief that going to college is a bad idea is at the forefront of project 2025 policy. patphil Nov 11 #11
Well put Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #17
College was simply not for me. Technical school was. And I retired at 53 Callie1979 Nov 11 #23
Good for you Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Nov 11 #24
It's not a bad idea, but not the right idea for everyone. flvegan Nov 11 #25
Trade jobs are being taken by robots lame54 Nov 11 #28
Glad you started this topic fujiyamasan Nov 11 #29
Solid article on the subject.... democratsruletheday Nov 11 #33
I support everyone going to at least a two-year college before chosing a career LogDog75 Nov 11 #34
I learned a trade Jilly_in_VA Nov 11 #35
BSNs aren't required to do rotations before graduating? Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #39
They do, but it varies Jilly_in_VA Nov 12 #54
The point of education is that it teaches you how to learn and how to think. milestogo Nov 11 #36
LOL Skittles Nov 12 #58
Those who make such suggestions as a response to A.I. don't understand current technology 0rganism Nov 11 #38
Excellent post, thanks Johnny2X2X Nov 11 #40
I think we're a long way from robots who can do plumbing or electrical work... hunter Nov 11 #42
It's always a long way until it's not 0rganism Nov 11 #43
Maybe I'll use AI to create a virus that breaks AI. hunter Nov 11 #45
In the case of AI it's a matter of scale rather than structure 0rganism Nov 12 #52
What I learned in trade school in 1992 still applies today Kaleva Thursday #60
AI gets to practice law, medicine, engineering, while humans get to fix the plumbing? tinrobot Nov 11 #44
AI won't kill people with glowing red eye robots... hunter Nov 11 #46
No protection there Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #48
AI is much more limited than its promoters claim WSHazel Nov 12 #51
That AI narrative is such bs jfz9580m Nov 12 #53
If millions went to college, wouldn't create a race to the bottom for wages? Kaleva Thursday #62
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