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Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:14 PM Nov 11

ACA credits people are accusing Chuck Schumer of abandoning would not even exist without his leadership [View all]

Temporary subsidies were originally passed as part of the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) in 2021, which included two years of enhanced subsidies (2021 and 2022). The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), which passed in 2022, extended these enhanced subsidies for an additional three years, ending after 2025.

These tax credits were set to expire at the end of 2022. Chuck Schumer negotiated hard with fox-in-the-henhouse, Joe Manchin in a 50/50 senate majority w/VP Harris' as a tiebreaker to allow the three-year extension in exchange for jettisoning things like social spending and climate change initiatives from a reconciliation bill Dems were able to pass and have Pres. Biden sign into law on their own in a simple-majority vote.

Manchin was playing god with his vote (along with Sinema)...

NPR:

Manchin became the leading voice of opposition to major spending as inflation concerns grew in the country. He was able to single-handedly drive the talks because Democrats need unanimous support to pass the bill in the evenly divided Senate.

It was the second time in less than two years that Democrats (Schumer in the Senate and Pelosi in the House) muscled through a sprawling spending package without any Republican support, following passage of the $1.9 trillion pandemic aid package...


Here's the fucking thing with people thowing shit at Chuck Schumer, like the nobodies reaching back to claw at Joe Biden, they have nothing, zero to show what they did to advance anything that these very same Democrats are fighting for this very hour; the very things that THEY, themselves fought to provide and protect before voters decided they didn't need a Democratic majority any more; before some people decided that throwing shit at Democrats was more important than preserving what they'd fought and achieved with the slimmest majority that exists.

Get that, the very ACA credits that people are accusing Chuck Schumer of abandoning would not exist, would not have been put into effect and law without the leadership and ability of then-majority leader Schumer to make it happen on 2021 and again in 2022.

And fuck him for still defending those today? That's what he's fighting against, in addition to the actual republican opposition; a load of concern from people who must believe those benefits dropped out of the sky and landed in the federal register.

And, what has he done in this period of optimum public exposure? His critics are talking about the benefits as the most important thing in the nation, as opposed to a month or so ago when you couldn't distinguish them from anything else the republicans are taking away from Americans.

You have to be a political novice to imagine either Democratic leader actually believed republicans from the Senate, to the House, to the WH were just going to faint away and allow the expiring tax credits to continue because the people they deliberately hurt were hurting in the shutdown.

There should be an understanding that this was always a political gambit to first, get the benefits approved, and then dare republicans to end vital medical benefits for millions of their constituents.

That's still the political play, albeit without the political advantage our leaders exercised during the shutdown to heighten the expectations and elevate the potential harm in undoing in the eyes for what looks like a majority of republican constituents vs. Democrats who use the subsidies.

A handful of senators negotiated a pause in the fight until January when a vote on the ACA tax credits will take place shortly after the premiums increase.

That's the political flash point now, and you can count on one thing: Chuck Schumer will still have been fighting outside of our view, negotiating among the Democratic legislators who elected him to represent them, and organizing their votes for unified opposition to republicans and advocacy for Democratic initiatives like the tax credit he's been defending since 2021.

As Lawrence O'Donnell pointed out last night,

"As the Senate majority leader during the Biden presidency, Chuck Schumer pulled off the most significant string of 50 vote victories in the United States
Senate that we have ever seen. Chuck Schumer did not have a majority of United States senators.

Chuck Schumer was the leader of a 50/50 Senate for
longer than any other leader in the history of the Senate. And Chuck Schumer could only get to 51 votes with VP Harris casting the tiebreaking 51st vote.

But his legislative accomplishments during the Biden presidency and President Biden's legislative accomplishments were greater, especially when you consider the degree of difficulty than any other president and any other Senate leader of our lifetimes."


I've already read several derisive responses to these facts about the Senate Democratic leader in other posts about 'cheerleading' or 'apologizing' or positivity' which are of course efforts to divert from realities that, likely, they, themselves haven't come anywhere close to the measure of effort and accomplishment of out Democratic leaders; so many believing judging it with a thumbs up or down is some kind of political action.

It's not, of course. It's protest, not governing, and too many who deign their opinion important enough to demand our Democrats stand aside when they face an obstacle aren't on the same level as the people who have already fought and won against republicans (and their own party members), and already achieved the things so many are now purporting to want to preserve and protect.

What a curious tactic that's emerged and become normalized among some Democratic supporters of attacking the people actually doing the fighting when the battle is well underway; willing to cast aside the very people that brought us to where we have those things fought for to defend.
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Why didn't they push that expiration date? leftstreet Nov 11 #1
Mostly due to the funny math that is required under reconciliation. tritsofme Nov 11 #4
Don't scold voters over arcane senate rules leftstreet Nov 11 #11
this is arguing with umbrellas bigtree Nov 11 #14
We could also try not attacking Democrats out of ignorance. tritsofme Nov 11 #15
LOL leftstreet Nov 11 #18
I posted the reason. Manchin, bigtree Nov 11 #5
Schumer couldn't control Manchin? leftstreet Nov 11 #9
take some time to read the history of that legislative period bigtree Nov 11 #12
Okay n/t leftstreet Nov 11 #13
Pure silliness. You can't "strip committee assignments" from members who can strip the majority away from you. tritsofme Nov 11 #19
You think they'd give up their power? leftstreet Nov 11 #22
It would have been a completely empty threat, when they could react to any such tritsofme Nov 11 #29
So rigged leftstreet Nov 11 #30
That's just the reality. tritsofme Nov 11 #33
My guess is that either Manchin refused to go any longer dsc Nov 11 #6
It's sad they didn't use another mechanism leftstreet Nov 11 #21
Manchin insisted on the 3 year sunsetting of the subsidies. It was one of his multiple demands in order to pass the 2022 Celerity Nov 11 #16
I know leftstreet Nov 11 #24
Hope this helps orangecrush Nov 11 #2
Schumer will remain the minority leader until we win the House in '26. It is up to the voters whether we walkingman Nov 11 #3
in my view bigtree Nov 11 #8
If AOC primaries him then I think he retires. Ace Rothstein Nov 11 #32
Who would replace him, any ideas? We have to come up with a real solution to the Progressive/Moderate walkingman Nov 11 #34
it's going to be a free for all bigtree Nov 11 #37
Merci! Mme. Defarge Nov 11 #7
Can you post a thread without criticizing your fellow DUers? demmiblue Nov 11 #10
Zero chance of that. We all just need to conform harder and be more servile to leadership. BannonsLiver Nov 11 #45
Yes, he was heading cat as well. frogstar0 Nov 11 #17
Two things Samael13 Nov 11 #20
he fucking controlled these senators for 40 damn days bigtree Nov 11 #23
Good for him Samael13 Nov 11 #25
that's not accurate. Not by a mile. bigtree Nov 11 #26
Dear bigtree -,people just don't want to take the time to Ninga Nov 11 #38
Excellent point ..... anciano Nov 11 #35
no one lost their job bigtree Nov 11 #40
Aha..I should have said "laid off" instead of "lost"..... anciano Nov 11 #42
That sounds like how abusive/neglectful parents talk about kids to excuse their own behavior. RockRaven Nov 11 #27
I'm not responsible for how you process facts. bigtree Nov 11 #28
By all means, continue communicating with others as you have been with the same results then. RockRaven Nov 11 #31
oh my bigtree Nov 11 #36
Thumbs up or thumbs down is the most basic political action we can take Ilikepurple Nov 11 #39
whatever, I'm not campaigning for anything bigtree Nov 11 #41
I'm at a loss as to what this thread's purpose is then? Ilikepurple Nov 11 #43
Amen! Preach on.... anciano Nov 11 #48
how the heck am I supposed to know what you want? bigtree Nov 11 #49
Spin it! BannonsLiver Nov 11 #44
🎼🎵🎶🔊 Celerity Nov 11 #46
Total banger even after all these years. BannonsLiver Nov 11 #47
Whatever Schumer's done and been in the past, he isn't up to the task now Arazi Nov 11 #50
Does this mean we owe Schumer two thank-yous? One for his assistance is giving us the ACA and one for taking it from us? in2herbs Nov 12 #51
Great post. 👍 underpants Nov 12 #52
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