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pecosbob

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83. Well you sure joined the wrong party...that's what Dems do.

Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:58 PM

Nov 11

They tell their us what's good for us and ignore what we are asking for and this always results in a circular firing squad. Dems could have re-opened the government three weeks ago. They took the very same offer that was on the table in October after letting their constituents go without paychecks for a month...for what, exactly? Why shut the government down at all if you're going to re-open in weeks after gaining nothing, in fact after harming your own constituents...for politics.

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Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums [View all] bigtree Nov 10 OP

Have you thought about running for office? You said you are willing to fight and we need some fighters in DC. LonePirate Nov 10 #1

Bahahahahahaha BannonsLiver Nov 10 #5

Tell us about Merrick Garland again Ponietz Nov 10 #2

Merrick Garland Democrats! John Coktosten Nov 11 #77

Garland had a R by his name, last I checked. GreenWave Nov 11 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #3

What gets me is people looking at results like these and saying "well, they did their best, RockRaven Nov 10 #4

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #6

Got a link? And she was the best speaker ever. nt babylonsister Nov 10 #8

They are big boys and girls, but our dumbass electorate is not. W_HAMILTON Nov 10 #9

I don't think you understand modern electoral politics Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #44

I don't think the voters understand the ballot box. W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #52

Thank you, well said, and I agree with every word. Walleye Nov 10 #7

You're right. And there's a reason why Republicans and Russians put so much effort into dividing the left. W_HAMILTON Nov 10 #10

Because they know an easy win? quakerboy Nov 10 #18

Yeah, no. It's a lot easier to divide Democrats when the person dividing is only a Democrat when it benefits them. W_HAMILTON Nov 10 #50

Whom do you mean? Could it be Tim Kaine (Hillary's running mate), who Jack Valentino Nov 11 #51

And if we had voted for Hillary and him, there would be no Trump. W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #53

I DID VOTE for Hillary and him---!!!! Jack Valentino Nov 11 #55

So you want to blame about a third of the party. quakerboy Nov 11 #56

I agree except that I am thinking the cavers represent a lot less than a third of the party. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #61

I blame those not voting for Democrats. W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #66

so if I look through your post history quakerboy Nov 11 #74

You will find me mostly criticizing those that contribute to the in-fighting. W_HAMILTON Nov 11 #79

And who do you suppose that was? quakerboy Nov 11 #80

You again. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 10 #11

Good lawd 😴 demmiblue Nov 10 #12

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #13

I heard Carville brow beating Democrats who are upset about this while listening to MSNBC on a walk this afternoon. CentralMass Nov 10 #14

I see eight wedges responsible for the current discord in the party Sympthsical Nov 10 #15

Who knows these days quakerboy Nov 10 #19

Gov Newsom edhopper Nov 10 #16

I dont go down without a fight quakerboy Nov 10 #17

Only 8 of them. creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #25

That's the 8 that were chosen because they aren't running in 2026 Bluetus Nov 10 #27

No proof of that. creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #28

Either it was orchestrated or they went rogue. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 11 #85

Probably ended up that way creeksneakers2 Nov 11 #93

Don't kid yourself. kacekwl Nov 10 #29

I don't kid myself creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #31

All of them quakerboy Nov 10 #38

That kind of thinking helps Trump. creeksneakers2 Nov 12 #94

Voting for trump helps trump quakerboy Nov 13 #95

Turning against Democrats helps him too. creeksneakers2 Nov 13 #96

*democrats quakerboy Nov 13 #97

Most of them didn't. Those who did didn't most of the time. creeksneakers2 Nov 13 #98

They did when it matters and the rest are doing nothing about it. quakerboy Nov 13 #99

Thank you bigtree. Good post. c-rational Nov 10 #20

Democratic Senators angrychair Nov 10 #21

correct Skittles Nov 10 #23

I also think the timing of it is what hits so hard.... OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #59

See it's not that angrychair Nov 11 #65

Oh, I DEFINITELY hear you.... OneGrassRoot Nov 11 #67

Making it all about how devastating losing ACA- subsidies would be-only to cave--was very poor messaging crimycarny Nov 11 #78

I am so sorry, popsdenver Nov 10 #22

We've got midterms to win mcar Nov 10 #24

What we say on this site hurts no one iemanja Nov 10 #41

On this site? Have you looked at social media and MSM? mcar Nov 11 #64

It isn't a "narrative" Queso Delicioso Nov 11 #82

7 elected Democrats voted to end the shutdown mcar Nov 11 #84

This is going to hurt the midterms Cuthbert Allgood Nov 11 #87

I can make the case gab13by13 Nov 10 #26

Well, as long as the party makes stupid ass choices that make zero sense you better get used to it. nt yaesu Nov 10 #30

Agree and to add FHRRK Nov 10 #32

Well played. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 #34

How is your head? FHRRK Nov 10 #35

Massive hangover this morning, ok now. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 #36

I got up once to get a beer FHRRK Nov 10 #46

Lawrence just discussed problems for LEADERSHIP of Dem party, and we all should read/ elleng Nov 10 #33

I think you and I are the only two DU'ers watching Ninga Nov 10 #37

UTTERLY credible. elleng Nov 10 #42

Well. Our priority right now must be to make sure you're not shaken. Scrivener7 Nov 10 #39

You have a soft spot for the most ineffective Democrats iemanja Nov 10 #40

Lawrence O'Donnell has proven you right tonight, and all the anti-Schumers wrong. ancianita Nov 10 #43

Here's the link to Rhiannon12866's OP with video... PunkinPi Nov 11 #57

Yes, I saw it, thanks. ancianita Nov 11 #69

Sure, you're welcome. PunkinPi Nov 11 #86

Yep, it happens when folks upload a full hour. But it's worth the info for the 12 hrs that 177 people got to view it. ancianita Nov 11 #88

Senator Chris Murphy and 36 other Democratic Senators disagree. And they're in a better position to know. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #63

They don't wanna get dragged? Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #45

Even worse FHRRK Nov 10 #47

I agree, Bigtree. summer_in_TX Nov 10 #48

Ask yourself this Metaphorical Nov 10 #49

Hilarious awesomerwb1 Nov 11 #54

K&R betsuni Nov 11 #58

You Lost Me At "I Get It, Probably More Than...." How's That... ColoringFool Nov 11 #60

So we should sit back while they sell us out over and over again Thrill Nov 11 #62

Strategic voting to get a 271 vote count from Republicans is not selling out. ancianita Nov 11 #70

Disagree, we're not dragging dem leadership enough on communication uponit7771 Nov 11 #68

So, are we supposed to pretend that Bettie Nov 11 #71

" Republicans and their bull don't shake me as much as the dragging of our party and leaders in Dem forums" BannonsLiver Nov 11 #72

Indeed. Never saying a negative word about ineffectual, self-inflicted losses... LR3 Nov 11 #75

Agree MorbidButterflyTat Nov 11 #73

Moronic things like "don't listen to Lawrence O'Donnell, he's rich"; Tim Kaine's a "corporate shill," don't listen. betsuni Nov 11 #92

Yes, and some rando on Tik Tok MorbidButterflyTat Nov 13 #100

Yes, yes John Coktosten Nov 11 #76

When they fuck up, intentionally or not, they *absolutely* deserve to get dragged Rob H. Nov 11 #81

Well you sure joined the wrong party...that's what Dems do. pecosbob Nov 11 #83

We'll either cool off or pay at the polls next year gulliver Nov 11 #89

March in lockstep is a REPUBLICAN TRAIT! Emile Nov 11 #90