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angrychair

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20. That wasn't why we had a shutdown

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:40 PM

Nov 10

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We had a shutdown for healthcare and they made people suffer for 40 days and in the end just gave up and got no resolution on healthcare. In fact it's even worse now.
There is no 7D chess here.
Now the ACA is cooked and literally millions of people will die

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OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here.... [View all] PCIntern Nov 10 OP

Thank you PCI essaynnc Nov 10 #1

Isn't there always when you get down to it, but we rarely have the inside track.Thanks for the perspective. Amaryllis Nov 10 #62

It's a head scratcher. MatthewStLouis Nov 10 #2

Those eight Senators were chosen for a reason, and it's nothing to do with brain damage FakeNoose Nov 10 #23

None of them are up for reelection any time soon obamanut2012 Nov 10 #31

durbin isn't running again nt orleans Nov 10 #63

They know what they're doing. Glaisne Nov 10 #48

Yes there is snowybirdie Nov 10 #3

We need new leadership. CentralMass Nov 10 #4

I've played the denial game too many times orangecrush Nov 10 #5

Well said. Buddyzbuddy Nov 10 #6

A vote to release them may happen but it doesn't mean moniss Nov 10 #7

Thank you for offering, once again, some sanity. NNadir Nov 10 #8

Congrats. You've reached the bargaining stage. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #9

From a long range strategic perspective, for reasons too numerous to go into here, I don't think it was all that bad. Fil1957 Nov 10 #10

Knowing the bad reaction they'd ignite last night C_U_L8R Nov 10 #11

I've completely lost track of how many times like this FoxNewsSucks Nov 10 #14

Thanks. The tide was turning, we couldn't permit SNAP, etc., to go unfunded. CoopersDad Nov 10 #12

Gawd in that photo Kristi Noem has MAN HANDS!!! Billsdaughter Nov 10 #22

That photo was created more than likely bobalew Nov 10 #33

I remember that Lampoon cover. "Buy this magazine or we shoot this dog!" calimary Nov 11 #70

Not enough K's in KKKristi. BurnDoubt Nov 10 #40

Beat Me To It!!!!! BurnDoubt Nov 10 #37

Another "Trust the Process" post Ponietz Nov 10 #13

No it isn't that kind of post PCIntern Nov 10 #16

I saw one of them on TV this morning FoxNewsSucks Nov 10 #18

this is where I am berksdem Nov 10 #27

Dems have successfully exposed poli-junkie Nov 10 #15

I was awake till 4:30, got a few hours' sleep. I would like to think yesterday's cave was possibly strategic in some highplainsdem Nov 10 #17

Are you forgetting that Rs will have to face an actual vote in December to extend or not the ACA? Sogo Nov 10 #19

didn't seem to bother them one little bit when they voted FOR the lapfog_1 Nov 10 #26

Not to defend them (I would never) but you do know that... Justice matters. Nov 10 #46

you really believe berksdem Nov 10 #30

That wasn't why we had a shutdown angrychair Nov 10 #20

Yes. All of this. MontanaMama Nov 10 #35

when were the going to cave?Why would they have caved? edisdead Nov 10 #61

Yes there were rumblings days ago by the likes of Fetterman fujiyamasan Nov 10 #64

Im sure the Epstein files will have little impact. Kablooie Nov 10 #21

There were hostages, lots of them. Party unity lost out I guess. twodogsbarking Nov 10 #24

Thank you! Arrogance is a very bad quality. betsuni Nov 10 #25

We were told that for the documents case. We were told that for the Mueller decision. We were told that Scrivener7 Nov 10 #28

Well, here is my story about faith in leadership... thought crime Nov 10 #29

In my view, the "capitulation" boils down to this: was there ANY CHANCE Republicans would restore the ACA subsidies? Martin Eden Nov 10 #32

More of 'oh well it'll never pass so just give up' Alpeduez21 Nov 10 #36

You didn't answer my question. Martin Eden Nov 10 #50

IMHO the repukes need to see how close they are to abject failure yet again dickthegrouch Nov 10 #53

So then, you think there was a reasonable chance all 3 things would happen to restore ACA subsidies? Martin Eden Nov 10 #56

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #34

Pelosi retiring with $130 million dollars makes me ill Ponietz Nov 10 #58

More Garland redux? Autumn Nov 10 #38

Listen Up ms.pamela Nov 10 #39

All added to the moral collapse brought on by the internet Ponietz Nov 10 #59

Heard the same argument about Garland Mr.WeRP Nov 10 #41

Scooch over on that limb so I can sit beside you PikaBlue Nov 10 #42

But we have an insider sharing information. hamsterjill Nov 10 #43

Newsom also used the word PATHETIC. Olbermann called the sell out Senators Quislings. flashman13 Nov 10 #49

I think I have whiplash... CapnSteve Nov 10 #44

Fingers Crossed czarjak Nov 11 #67

THANKS a lot!!!!, PCIntern elleng Nov 10 #45

"Trust" Has Been Dead Ever Since Money Was Invented. BurnDoubt Nov 10 #47

Part of the Wait-tu-see tribe Beringia Nov 10 #51

The dems don't have a good track record holding the line. -nt CrispyQ Nov 10 #52

Thank you for Ilsa Nov 10 #54

I'm not so sure this was a move in a game of three dimensional chess Patton French Nov 10 #55

What if . . . . in2herbs Nov 10 #57

I can think of many caring and principled reasons to vote to end the shutdown. summer_in_TX Nov 11 #65

It's time to chuck Schumer Hassler Nov 10 #60

I NEVER understood how my brother-in-law could consider himself Jack Valentino Nov 11 #66

Nice story but what does it have to do with the repeated failure of the Democratic Party leadership? PufPuf23 Nov 11 #68

Opinions vary. PCIntern Nov 11 #69

There's been a lot said by Pundits BlueKota Nov 11 #71