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Deminpenn

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8. If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else

Reply to angrychair (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:45 AM

Nov 10

would you consider that a win?

What they got by holding out was SNAP and other benefits fully funded for all of FY26 and VA funded for all of FY26. The new CR contains language that requires back pay for federal civil servants and requires that all federal employees who were laid off or "RIF'd" be rehired as well as putting some restraints on Vought's unilateral actions wrt the federal government.

None of that would have happened had the shutdown continued to be focused only on the ACA.

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Herding Democrats is TOUGH because we are DIVERSE: Our greatest frustration, and our greatest strength [View all] pat_k Nov 10 OP

Think we can still hammer them on ACA without kids hungry, paychecks held, permanent job losses, etc. Silent Type Nov 10 #1

Absolutely! pat_k Nov 10 #3

So we made people suffer angrychair Nov 10 #5

That's certainly one way to look at it. pat_k Nov 10 #6

No angrychair Nov 10 #7

If Dems had gotten their demand on the ACA subsidies and nothing else Deminpenn Nov 10 #8

Yes angrychair Nov 10 #10

It's ok that you're a single issue voter Deminpenn Nov 10 #11

You miss the point friend angrychair Nov 10 #13

Some perspective from Lawrence O'Donnell pat_k Nov 11 #21

Thanks for looking at the potentially positive aspects. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #2

And keep pushing our electeds. Old dogs, new tricks and all that. pat_k Nov 10 #4

Even better, now Johnson has to call the House back into session Deminpenn Nov 10 #9

They have set a precedent Bettie Nov 10 #12

There is a chance for the 8 to redeem themselves in the coming battle. pat_k Nov 10 #20

The diversity within our party may be a point of pride and a moral strength, but politically speaking... QueerDuck Nov 10 #14

All true. While diversity in the party is a strength pat_k Nov 10 #17

I think this is BS. But he has a chance to prove it. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #15

As I said, time will tell. pat_k Nov 10 #16

Nancy Pelosi was pretty damn good at keeping her coalition together. Nanjeanne Nov 10 #18

Yes. But she utterly failed to stand strong for her convictions. pat_k Nov 10 #19