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AloeVera

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24. I skimmed thru all that. Geez. Why do I bother????
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:32 PM
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The intent has been proven. By the results
By the evidence before the world's eyes.

If you are reduced to quibbling about legal definitions - the same definition used by genocide scholars who say it's clearly a genocide - while faced with the apocalypse and HORRIFIC human suffering in Gaza.... then you are someone I cannot dialogue with.

An army/military that has invaded a territory and has control of it, as Israel has/does in Gaza, is called an Occupying Power in international law. It has obligations as I outlined. I was not referring to Gaza's prior status, which btw according to international law and the UN, was still considered occupied after 2005. You can read up on their rationale.

No one is going to rid Israel of Jews. That was never gonna happen by Hamas - how? - and even less now.

But isn't it weird though, that in fact it is Palestinians who are going to suffer that fate instead? From THEIR homeland? What a coincidence and twist of fate! That was never in the cards! Nobody EVER thought of that before! No one had such a plan and no one projected that plan onto the Palestinians!

Right?

Really no need to answer. Please.

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It's amazing JustAnotherGen Tuesday #1
so is accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza "Antisemitism"? LymphocyteLover Tuesday #2
to some, yes. Only total loyalty to Israel is accepted. WhiteTara Tuesday #4
Genocide claims require specific intent, dolus specialis. Mosby Tuesday #5
Israel long since went past defending themselves EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #7
So starving only SOME Palestinians - not most - is proof of no genocidal intent? AloeVera Tuesday #10
Reply Mosby Tuesday #21
I skimmed thru all that. Geez. Why do I bother???? AloeVera Tuesday #24
I am not going through this ridiculous post in its entirety, but I can't resist this one: Beastly Boy Tuesday #25
If you keep dropping a hot skillet on your toe, yes EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #35
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #29
Why ignore the Revised Charter of 2017? AloeVera Tuesday #30
That's not the definition of an occupying power. lapucelle Tuesday #32
And as long as we're discussing definitions, what does "No one is going to rid Israel of Jews" mean? lapucelle Tuesday #33
And as for "quibbling" over definitions... lapucelle Tuesday #36
No, starvation in times of war is not in itself proof of genocidal intent. Beastly Boy Tuesday #22
As in the case of defining genocide itself, intent is key. Beastly Boy Tuesday #6
As Jon Stewart recently put it LymphocyteLover Tuesday #16
What a coincidence. I was just watching that when I read your post vanessa_ca Tuesday #19
Did anything I posted remind you of being told to shut up? Beastly Boy Tuesday #23
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #8
Thank goodness they're not also jailed, deported, fired from faculty, stripped of degrees and even green cards AloeVera Tuesday #31
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Here's what the judge had to say: lapucelle Tuesday #37
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #38
The judge saw it differently. lapucelle Wednesday #40
excluded by the univ administration? LymphocyteLover Wednesday #46
Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA lapucelle Wednesday #49
Thanks! LymphocyteLover Wednesday #52
I read the article from the Daily Bruin and the case is quite complex. I didn't see specific examples of what LymphocyteLover 23 hrs ago #94
Jewish students were denied access to parts of the campus. lapucelle 22 hrs ago #95
All Federal grants to UCLA now suspended LymphocyteLover 1 hr ago #107
And it wasn't a brief that I quoted. It was a federal judge's ruling. N/T lapucelle 22 hrs ago #96
It's no big deal "only having to go AROUND"? sarisataka Wednesday #42
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #43
There's a trial balloon for an upcoming inversion in there as well. lapucelle Wednesday #47
This! mcar Wednesday #64
Wow, well said. sheshe2 Wednesday #68
Except JustAnotherGen Wednesday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Wednesday #69
I can't imagine saying... lapucelle Wednesday #41
Boom! JustAnotherGen Wednesday #61
Right? mcar Wednesday #65
It's mind boggling JustAnotherGen Yesterday #81
Blaming every Jewish person for what Israel is doing is antisemitic. yardwork Tuesday #11
I agree mostly, with some questions thought crime Tuesday #14
Blaming the Israeli government is not antisemitic. yardwork Tuesday #15
Because Isreal is starving two million people in front of our eyes 👀 questionseverything Tuesday #26
It is not deniable or excusable. yardwork Tuesday #28
Genocide at our southern border? Some people are close to saying so. thought crime Tuesday #39
What we are seeing quite a bit of is the terms "Israel", "Zionist" and "Jewish" being used synonymously sarisataka Tuesday #18
Yes. Exactly. yardwork Tuesday #27
What's disturbing is watching seemingly ordinary young people make the leap in logic from... PeaceWave Tuesday #3
I know where they're getting their information. yardwork Tuesday #12
do you have any specific examples of that? LymphocyteLover Tuesday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #20
Thanks. 2023! Yikes. LymphocyteLover Wednesday #45
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But Israel... sarisataka Tuesday #9
Here is a thoughtful explanation about the cycle of anti_Semitism OilemFirchen Tuesday #13
There certainly is genocide enablement iemanja Wednesday #44
Yes. Those celebrations in NYC on October 8, 2023 were disgusting. lapucelle Wednesday #50
I was thinking of these lives iemanja Wednesday #51
... lapucelle Wednesday #53
denial iemanja Wednesday #54
I'm not in denial about Hamas's propaganda machine or the extremist groups that stoke it. lapucelle Wednesday #56
Those freedom fighters have, perhaps, the greatest propaganda machine in history. nt LexVegas Wednesday #57
It's not Hamas, it's international food security experts iemanja Wednesday #62
"the country you defend more than your own" lapucelle Wednesday #63
You are absolutely correct Jenanja Avalon Sparks Wednesday #75
It's a transparent ploy iemanja Yesterday #78
100% agree! Avalon Sparks Yesterday #79
So he's in Italy? JustAnotherGen Yesterday #84
Indeed he is in Italy being treated. lapucelle Yesterday #86
Advocating that the government of Israel should stop killing and starving civilians equals soft antisemitism? LudwigPastorius Wednesday #55
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #58
Sure, it's completely and utterly unrelated to anything else EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #67
"that silly term"...there it is. nt LexVegas Wednesday #70
Antisemitism is now a "silly term" sarisataka Wednesday #72
Remember, there is no antisemitism on the left. nt LexVegas Wednesday #74
Yes it's a silly term EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #73
Actually JustAnotherGen Yesterday #82
That's still not an evidence based or philosophy based defense of Holocaust inversion as a thing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #85
Just don't include Slavery in the Equation JustAnotherGen Yesterday #89
Thanks for the clarification. I missed the reference to slavery. thought crime 14 hrs ago #103
I didn't put the card on the table JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #106
Just saying JustAnotherGen 8 hrs ago #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Yesterday #76
Antisemitism is a "silly term?" mcar Yesterday #87
no Holocaust inversion is a silly term EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #90
Ever wondered why Israel has had impunity for any and all its crimes? AloeVera Wednesday #71
That's your choice Mossfern Yesterday #77
Now that seventeen more countries plus the European Union and Arab League lapucelle Wednesday #59
Finally! mcar Wednesday #66
Mahlao, lapucelle.. You are such a Cha Yesterday #80
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I'd condemn anyone who's deliberately murdered tens of thousands of civilians Orrex Yesterday #83
Spare me. ShadesOfBlue Yesterday #88
"Folks like you on the left"...???...Aren't we all here part of the left? PeaceWave Yesterday #91
LOL That's what I thought too! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #92
Notice the number of posts ... Mossfern Yesterday #93
And the length of membership... lapucelle 22 hrs ago #97
Sleeping beauty, eh? Hekate 22 hrs ago #98
... lapucelle 19 hrs ago #102
That's a question that remains to be seen. Oopsie Daisy 21 hrs ago #100
Hopefully that was sarcasm. thought crime 13 hrs ago #104
Pox on Both Hamas and Baby Yahoo. Defending and rationalizing any of this is beyond Insane msfiddlestix 21 hrs ago #99
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