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16. As Jon Stewart recently put it

Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:12 PM

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“I feel like I’m watching something so self-evidently inhumane and horrific and to be told I have to shut up because I risk the Jewish state by speaking out? I would say the opposite — they’re putting the likelihood of a surviving Jewish state much more at risk.”

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Holocaust inversion and secondary or soft antisemitism are nothing new. [View all] LexVegas Tuesday OP

It's amazing JustAnotherGen Tuesday #1

so is accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza "Antisemitism"? LymphocyteLover Tuesday #2

to some, yes. Only total loyalty to Israel is accepted. WhiteTara Tuesday #4

Genocide claims require specific intent, dolus specialis. Mosby Tuesday #5

Israel long since went past defending themselves EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #7

So starving only SOME Palestinians - not most - is proof of no genocidal intent? AloeVera Tuesday #10

Reply Mosby Tuesday #21

I skimmed thru all that. Geez. Why do I bother???? AloeVera Tuesday #24

I am not going through this ridiculous post in its entirety, but I can't resist this one: Beastly Boy Tuesday #25

If you keep dropping a hot skillet on your toe, yes EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #35

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #29

Why ignore the Revised Charter of 2017? AloeVera Tuesday #30

That's not the definition of an occupying power. lapucelle Tuesday #32

And as long as we're discussing definitions, what does "No one is going to rid Israel of Jews" mean? lapucelle Tuesday #33

And as for "quibbling" over definitions... lapucelle Tuesday #36

No, starvation in times of war is not in itself proof of genocidal intent. Beastly Boy Tuesday #22

As in the case of defining genocide itself, intent is key. Beastly Boy Tuesday #6

As Jon Stewart recently put it LymphocyteLover Tuesday #16

What a coincidence. I was just watching that when I read your post vanessa_ca Tuesday #19

Did anything I posted remind you of being told to shut up? Beastly Boy Tuesday #23

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #8

Thank goodness they're not also jailed, deported, fired from faculty, stripped of degrees and even green cards AloeVera Tuesday #31

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Here's what the judge had to say: lapucelle Tuesday #37

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The judge saw it differently. lapucelle Wednesday #40

excluded by the univ administration? LymphocyteLover Wednesday #46

Yes. The court ruled that in allowing Jewish students to be denied services available to other students, UCLA lapucelle Wednesday #49

Thanks! LymphocyteLover Wednesday #52

I read the article from the Daily Bruin and the case is quite complex. I didn't see specific examples of what LymphocyteLover 17 hrs ago #94

Jewish students were denied access to parts of the campus. lapucelle 17 hrs ago #95

And it wasn't a brief that I quoted. It was a federal judge's ruling. N/T lapucelle 17 hrs ago #96

It's no big deal "only having to go AROUND"? sarisataka Wednesday #42

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #43

There's a trial balloon for an upcoming inversion in there as well. lapucelle Wednesday #47

This! mcar Wednesday #64

Wow, well said. sheshe2 Wednesday #68

Except JustAnotherGen Wednesday #60

This message was self-deleted by its author AloeVera Wednesday #69

I can't imagine saying... lapucelle Wednesday #41

Boom! JustAnotherGen Wednesday #61

Right? mcar Wednesday #65

It's mind boggling JustAnotherGen Yesterday #81

Blaming every Jewish person for what Israel is doing is antisemitic. yardwork Tuesday #11

I agree mostly, with some questions thought crime Tuesday #14

Blaming the Israeli government is not antisemitic. yardwork Tuesday #15

Because Isreal is starving two million people in front of our eyes 👀 questionseverything Tuesday #26

It is not deniable or excusable. yardwork Tuesday #28

Genocide at our southern border? Some people are close to saying so. thought crime Tuesday #39

What we are seeing quite a bit of is the terms "Israel", "Zionist" and "Jewish" being used synonymously sarisataka Tuesday #18

Yes. Exactly. yardwork Tuesday #27

What's disturbing is watching seemingly ordinary young people make the leap in logic from... PeaceWave Tuesday #3

I know where they're getting their information. yardwork Tuesday #12

do you have any specific examples of that? LymphocyteLover Tuesday #17

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #20

Thanks. 2023! Yikes. LymphocyteLover Wednesday #45

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But Israel... sarisataka Tuesday #9

Here is a thoughtful explanation about the cycle of anti_Semitism OilemFirchen Tuesday #13

There certainly is genocide enablement iemanja Wednesday #44

Yes. Those celebrations in NYC on October 8, 2023 were disgusting. lapucelle Wednesday #50

I was thinking of these lives iemanja Wednesday #51

... lapucelle Wednesday #53

denial iemanja Wednesday #54

I'm not in denial about Hamas's propaganda machine or the extremist groups that stoke it. lapucelle Wednesday #56

Those freedom fighters have, perhaps, the greatest propaganda machine in history. nt LexVegas Wednesday #57

It's not Hamas, it's international food security experts iemanja Wednesday #62

"the country you defend more than your own" lapucelle Wednesday #63

You are absolutely correct Jenanja Avalon Sparks Wednesday #75

It's a transparent ploy iemanja Yesterday #78

100% agree! Avalon Sparks Yesterday #79

So he's in Italy? JustAnotherGen Yesterday #84

Indeed he is in Italy being treated. lapucelle Yesterday #86

Advocating that the government of Israel should stop killing and starving civilians equals soft antisemitism? LudwigPastorius Wednesday #55

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #58

Sure, it's completely and utterly unrelated to anything else EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #67

"that silly term"...there it is. nt LexVegas Wednesday #70

Antisemitism is now a "silly term" sarisataka Wednesday #72

Remember, there is no antisemitism on the left. nt LexVegas Wednesday #74

Yes it's a silly term EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #73

Actually JustAnotherGen Yesterday #82

That's still not an evidence based or philosophy based defense of Holocaust inversion as a thing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #85

Just don't include Slavery in the Equation JustAnotherGen 23 hrs ago #89

Thanks for the clarification. I missed the reference to slavery. thought crime 8 hrs ago #103

I didn't put the card on the table JustAnotherGen 2 hrs ago #106

Just saying JustAnotherGen 2 hrs ago #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalon Sparks Yesterday #76

Antisemitism is a "silly term?" mcar 23 hrs ago #87

no Holocaust inversion is a silly term EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #90

Ever wondered why Israel has had impunity for any and all its crimes? AloeVera Wednesday #71

That's your choice Mossfern Yesterday #77

Now that seventeen more countries plus the European Union and Arab League lapucelle Wednesday #59

Finally! mcar Wednesday #66

Mahlao, lapucelle.. You are such a Cha Yesterday #80

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 14 hrs ago #101

I'd condemn anyone who's deliberately murdered tens of thousands of civilians Orrex Yesterday #83

Spare me. ShadesOfBlue 23 hrs ago #88

"Folks like you on the left"...???...Aren't we all here part of the left? PeaceWave 18 hrs ago #91

LOL That's what I thought too! n/t Just_Vote_Dem 18 hrs ago #92

Notice the number of posts ... Mossfern 18 hrs ago #93

And the length of membership... lapucelle 16 hrs ago #97

Sleeping beauty, eh? Hekate 16 hrs ago #98

... lapucelle 13 hrs ago #102

That's a question that remains to be seen. Oopsie Daisy 15 hrs ago #100

Hopefully that was sarcasm. thought crime 8 hrs ago #104

Pox on Both Hamas and Baby Yahoo. Defending and rationalizing any of this is beyond Insane msfiddlestix 16 hrs ago #99