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misanthrope

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94. You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health?

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Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:28 PM

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Someone will be right on that, I'm sure.

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Post by an RN: he has congestive heart failure [View all] scipan Jul 19 OP

You can't diagnose anyone from a distance TnDem Jul 19 #1

No, it doesn't. Scrivener7 Jul 19 #4

Yes. It most certainly does. See my post downstream. hlthe2b Jul 19 #7

Yep. When repubs were offering remote diagnoses of Teri Schiavo, we correctly mocked them. onenote Jul 19 #53

Exactly JCMach1 Jul 19 #18

Of course... Escape Jul 19 #23

What you can't diagnose is why the dog has 3 legs EdmondDantes_ Jul 19 #30

Really? TnDem Jul 19 #35

Exactly ...nt Raine Sunday #69

Probably not enough to kill a cockroach. Silent Type Jul 19 #2

I've seen no evidence of pitting edema. Ms. Toad Jul 19 #3

It's possible they noticed something in his hand, maybe after handshaking, which we've all seen him do. scipan Jul 19 #5

He doesn't have any significant edema in his hands. Ms. Toad Jul 19 #14

Good points. Maybe they were wrong or maybe they saw that at a different time. scipan Jul 19 #37

Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would hlthe2b Jul 19 #6

I don't want to be irresponsible. Not sure if you are a doctor or work in healthcare, but scipan Jul 19 #11

More replies scipan Jul 19 #13

Nope TnDem Sunday #74

Heaven help us! If he suddenly dies (which seems not only possible but probable) we get a worse monster. CTyankee Sunday #84

Put a disclaimer in the OP. Not gospel, just educated guesses. But so many. scipan Jul 19 #32

You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health? misanthrope Sunday #94

Do not tease me malaise Jul 19 #8

Haha! Right?! babylonsister Jul 19 #15

Hi there malaise Jul 19 #19

He can't have congestive heart failure and or a brain tumor BigmanPigman Jul 19 #9

For that matter, he seems to be lacking in courage, as well. n/t Morbius Jul 19 #12

I was going to write that, too. BigmanPigman Sunday #65

We'll never know the truth Oeditpus Rex Jul 19 #10

I can see Ronnie Jackson's report now... Shipwack Jul 19 #26

You can have congestive heart failure for nine years? Demobrat Jul 19 #16

With the right medicine Lulu KC Jul 19 #22

I see. Of course Trump has access to the world's Demobrat Jul 19 #25

True, but this is different synni Jul 19 #41

Yes. I've seen it for 13. /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 19 #24

Congestive heart failure life expectancy Wiz Imp Jul 19 #29

It can go undiagnosed for decades synni Jul 19 #43

Yes. Texasgal Sunday #91

The Last Responders are standing by Historic NY Jul 19 #17

You Tube doctors do this type of evaluation all the time bucolic_frolic Jul 19 #20

YouTube doctors? TnDem Sunday #75

lol bucolic_frolic Sunday #76

I've been around it with my dad. roamer65 Jul 19 #21

Hope 💩. Dies B4 He Can Do a Cheney MrWowWow Jul 19 #27

I hoped at the time, and still do, that Cheney's donor was not a Democrat. 3catwoman3 Jul 19 #51

Well he has acute pantload disease at the very least. CentralMass Jul 19 #28

Not commenting on the diagnosis except markodochartaigh Jul 19 #31

You're correct, thanks. Correcting in the OP. Nt scipan Jul 19 #38

Anyone that has/had a loved one Billsdaughter Jul 19 #33

Foley catheters create their own problems Deminpenn Jul 19 #57

He's a classic blue bloater. Scrivener7 Sunday #73

OK. I am not a medical professional, and my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, but . . . colorado_ufo Jul 19 #34

Equal swelling and not just the legs are also noted by professionals in that thread 🧵. scipan Jul 19 #40

tsf not golfing is the tell. rubbersole Sunday #67

Reading the comments in the Thread - gave me a warm feeling (smiling). Dan Jul 19 #36

I was a caregiver for multiple CHF patients synni Jul 19 #39

Oh that would be too bad... scipan Jul 19 #42

He will get the best care qazplm135 Jul 19 #44

Well there's a limit to what they can do. Worst case, he goes to the front of the line for a heart xplant like Cheney. N scipan Jul 19 #48

this is a good discussion but bottom line - Nigrum Cattus Jul 19 #45

I guess Vance could break Teddy Roosevelt's record... ITAL Jul 19 #46

Regardless, it could still be good news. 3825-87867 Jul 19 #47

I like the way you think. scipan Jul 19 #49

I agree...it isn't ethical or accurate to diagnose based on photos... Trueblue Texan Jul 19 #50

He has a heart? That's news to me. Dave Bowman Jul 19 #52

If it is not possible to diagnose something without an in-person examination then no one... 3catwoman3 Jul 19 #54

My diagnosis: Zorro Jul 19 #55

Standard medical procedure: Aussie105 Jul 19 #56

Less golfing. scipan Jul 19 #58

Anyone can claim they are RN on the internet, I wouldn't get my hopes doc03 Jul 19 #59

But greater than 10 in the thread? scipan Jul 19 #62

I have a BA in English, and I believe that qualifies me to diagnose him as a vile fuckhead Orrex Jul 19 #60

Of COURSE he knows he's on borrowed time. no_hypocrisy Jul 19 #61

Remember Trump's first annual physical Deminpenn Jul 19 #63

Here's an article cally Sunday #88

Thanks was just about to post the same link Deminpenn Sunday #89

More links to the prior heart issues from 2018 Deminpenn Sunday #90

The make-up is the weird thing Bluetus Sunday #64

He definitely has some cardio/circulatory problem he's being treated for indusurb Sunday #66

I, for one, do not CARE what he has, so long as he quits wasting oxygen. niyad Sunday #68

Hear, hear! Hugin Sunday #71

+1 dalton99a Sunday #83

Worthless "diagnosis" ... nt Raine Sunday #70

Love one of the posts - Sending Clots and Prayers! GoneOffShore Sunday #72

Oh yea you can diagnose from a distance. As a retired nurse, I called it years ago. It's CHF. flying_wahini Sunday #77

Be nice to have comment from MD Bluestocking Sunday #78

Interesting post that you presented in a very balanced way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #79

I don't care what's wrong with him; but it's apparent that something is, Ocelot II Sunday #80

It could be CHF, but I wouldn't bet on it Jersey Devil Sunday #81

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #82

Perfect! Nt scipan Sunday #86

My spouse and a friend got over the ankle swelling once their HBP got under control wishstar Sunday #85

Frankly Greg_In_SF Sunday #87

I learned things. Demobrat Sunday #92

This is what I was coming to post, sort of misanthrope Sunday #93

Problem with people like Trump...Hell doesn't want them. Xolodno Sunday #95