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Grammy23

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56. Sadly, even if Trump dropped dead this instant,

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Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:16 PM

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This disaster is not just about him. There are many others behind this. Trump is mainly the front guy. The real scary people are behind the throne. So even if he’s dead and gone, the takeover goes on. The fight will continue.

If I was a younger person I’d have already left for another place outside of the USA. My spouse hates what is going on but is reluctant to leave at our age. I think the thought of moving a way is too much for two old geezers. (We are 76.) But if we were younger, we’d already be gone. If you can leave and have the money to sustain you, go. Read up on the rules because some places are easier (or harder) than others. YouTube has tons of information if you are serious about leaving. And get crackalacking. Things are happening fast here. Too fast. Get out while you still can.

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