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Bread and Circuses

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40. I've struggled with this question too....

Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:13 PM

Jul 19

There’s many players with their own agendas: christo-fascists, misogynists, billionaire tax dodgers, white nativists, and the growing misconception that democracy limits ‘ freedom’. In this case , the freedom to have no regulations, rules, or oversight so the rich can ravage our country. They believe that a few elite tech-bros and billionaires know what is right and that we the people are idiots. Bottom Line = all western democracies must be demolished . Who do you think wins ?

They’re NOT like us.

They want us fearful, poor, and capitulated to the power elites.

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Why are Trump and the GOP Working So Hard to Ruin America? [View all] thomhartmann Jul 19 OP

2025? 1WorldHope Jul 19 #1

Project 2025, specifically electron_blue Sunday #81

White Conservstives think democracy doesn't work for them SARose Jul 19 #2

They think Democracy doesn't work for them because BaronChocula Jul 19 #17

Conservatives & democracy: Dulcinea Jul 19 #25

A good articulated insight Gum Logger Sunday #82

K&R markie Jul 19 #3

It's the Republican dystopian view of America. J_William_Ryan Jul 19 #4

This. And they want to go WAY back... ananda Jul 19 #23

Agreed on the underestimating of climate change misanthrope Jul 19 #50

It's hard to see how it could not. ananda Jul 19 #52

What you have described is the antebellum South misanthrope Jul 19 #54

Money, power, cruelty. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #5

they know they can manipulate cowards. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 19 #6

Don't know why but... moondust Jul 19 #7

sounds right. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #14

Egoism Ping Tung Jul 19 #8

We make the mistaken assumption that there is a Gaugamela Jul 19 #9

if you are accustomed to privelege MadameButterfly Jul 19 #33

works for me! Native Sunday #84

Because Trump works for Russia, the Fossil Fuel Industries, Saudi Arabia, and he is deeply mentally ill. Botany Jul 19 #10

Christo Fascist agenda, as you said Alice Kramden Jul 19 #21

In my humble opinion OddMom20 Jul 19 #11

Moral collapse of society, engendered by the right wing dedl67 Jul 19 #12

DAMN good question. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #13

Money:More is never enough. multigraincracker Jul 19 #15

Because they saw this election as their last chance for complete and total control, which they believe now they have, Karasu Jul 19 #16

I've been puzzling over this for awhile... jmbar2 Jul 19 #18

They want to collapse all government protections and functions to take over and rule us like peasants kimbutgar Jul 19 #19

Turning America into a shithole country poli-junkie Jul 19 #20

it's not just trump kbowman Jul 19 #22

Chaos - they need chaos to fully loot the country alittlelark Jul 19 #24

Re-arranging the deck chairs as humanity faces a cascade of environmental and social calamities PufPuf23 Jul 19 #26

Putin gave them a deadline. blm Jul 19 #27

Short answer: They're working for our enemies. Iggo Jul 19 #28

Anyone know when they will raise the Russian flag over the WH?? vapor2 Jul 19 #53

All of the above, Mr. Hartmann, and as usual, B.See Jul 19 #29

Most likely the second one. Dulcinea Jul 19 #30

"And of course this is just a partial list......."!!! I was exhausted by the time I got to this line, thinking to..... FadedMullet Jul 19 #31

6th grade teacher Blue Full Moon Jul 19 #32

I'm amazed people are still confused - Nigrum Cattus Jul 19 #34

You don't think that whathehell Jul 19 #48

It's simple, greed and power with no consequences. Until there are consequences for their actions and we as a people Cheezoholic Jul 19 #35

Trump is a malignant narcissist MadameButterfly Jul 19 #36

Trump is somewhat similar to 'The Mule' in Asimov's "Second Foundation" dedl67 Jul 19 #39

He will eventually alienate everyone MadameButterfly Jul 19 #44

Everything has always been about him malaise Jul 19 #37

They and the 1% will gain even more money and power. That's all they care about. It's an illness. Fil1957 Jul 19 #38

When they have to spend all their money on security MadameButterfly Jul 19 #45

I've struggled with this question too.... Bread and Circuses Jul 19 #40

I think it has to do with Trump's desire to control everything, and his decisions Ocelot II Jul 19 #41

Trump's desire to control comes from MadameButterfly Jul 19 #46

The perfect storm seabiscuit5920 Jul 19 #42

They want to make their current control permanent MadameButterfly Jul 19 #47

Hollywood bmichaelh Jul 19 #43

Trump realizes very little MadameButterfly Jul 19 #49

Had to laugh at the 1939 cinema reference misanthrope Jul 19 #56

Short answer: Money and Power. emulatorloo Jul 19 #51

My amateur theory is they're destroying the middle class because they don't need it anymore FullySupportDems Jul 19 #55

On some various levels his reasons are likely of all of the above. Bev54 Jul 19 #57

The usual "rational" explainations are no longer "rational" as the actions you describe will only create devastation and LT Barclay Jul 19 #58

Authoritarianism pervades American society iemanja Jul 19 #59

"The rich hate us" blubunyip Sunday #66

And why did millions of people vote for this? Oh yeah...because the FUCKING CORPORATE MEDIA enabled progressoid Sunday #60

Hatred and greed. niyad Sunday #61

i'm currently going for "private equity hostile takeover" rampartd Sunday #62

Putin told Trump... GiqueCee Sunday #63

This!!! Excellent & a must read Joinfortmill Sunday #70

Because they're not running a government, they're running a chop shop hatrack Sunday #64

the killing of the American dream..... Historic NY Sunday #65

My first thought was this is the making of feudalism Joinfortmill Sunday #67

re: "Why would Trump and the GOP..." - I think it is important to distinguish the two... thesquanderer Sunday #68

Serfs and barons is the social order they are intent on establishing. lark Sunday #69

Must destroy democracy to roll out the New Feudalism Kid Berwyn Sunday #71

At the pinnacle of wealth and power The Blue Flower Sunday #72

K&R spanone Sunday #73

It's natural to want to want to find out one big reason that explains it all jgmiller Sunday #74

Their corporate owners devoutly believe in this: TygrBright Sunday #75

Don't forget to include the MAGA voters. They started this mess. nt Hotler Sunday #76

They are not working hard at all. Raven123 Sunday #77

I have come to believe that many of that group WANT people to DIE RandomNumbers Sunday #78

They are in it for themselves. They care not for our country. Norrrm Sunday #79

Democracy has to fail badly enough so that an autocrat/fixer is a plausible solution. nt hay rick Sunday #80

Putin paid good money for this relayerbob Sunday #83

Speaking strictly about trump, I believe he's addicted to revenge, Native Sunday #85

Kleptocracy, plain and simple orangecrush Sunday #86