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thomhartmann

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Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:43 PM Jul 19

Why are Trump and the GOP Working So Hard to Ruin America? [View all]

Every day, it seems, we see or hear about another way in which Trump and his lickspittles in Congress and the various federal agencies are tearing down our country, weakening our defenses, pitting Americans against each other, looting our government, and making life harder for everybody except the morbidly rich.

The question nobody seems to have an answer to is, “Why?”

— Is it that, as Craig Unger seems to suggest, that he’s been a Russian agent for decades and is setting us up to lose to the newly-forming Axis of Russia and China?

— Is it that he spent so many years burning with rage and embarrassment at not being accepted by New York high society that he’s just come to hate America?

— Could it be that America-fearing foreign powers that have poured literally billions of dollars into the Trump family are paying him to tear us apart so they’ll never again have to endure the humiliation of having their human, civil, and women’s rights records called out by a future administration?

— Is it possible it’s all just to pay for tax cuts for billionaires?

— Or are his, Vance’s, and Musk’s white supremacist, Christian nationalist, libertarian, and/or neo-Nazi ideologies so intense that they’re willing to essentially burn the country down just to expel people of color, elevate the rich, and re-subordinate women?

These are serious questions for which I can’t find credible answers that explain the entire spectrum of their behavior. Why would Trump and the GOP:

— Condemn 12 million Americans to sickness and early death by gutting Medicaid?
— Destroy American soft power by killing USAID, thus condemning millions to death?
— Fire so many workers at the Social Security Administration that just getting through to sign up or get help has turned into a multi-day slog?
— Gut the State Department at a time diplomacy is most needed for world peace?
— End food assistance (SNAP) for millions when one-in-five American children experience hunger?
— Refuse to enforce laws and rules that allow workers to form unions in their workplaces?
— Propose forcing all new Medicare recipients onto Medicare “Advantage” corporate scam plans?
— Refuse military aid to Ukraine for seven long months and then give Russia 50 days to finish off their genocidal job?
— Stop the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau from going after fraudsters and banks when they rip people off?
— Eliminate a major NOAA program designed to warn communities about the dangers of flooding and other extreme weather crises?
— Politicize the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the Federal Election Commission?
— End net neutrality so none of us are safe online?
— Shut down anti-cyber-warfare operations in the federal government?
— Defund university research that leads to innovation and saves lives?
— Cut unemployment insurance benefits across Red states?
— Terminate support for people with student loans and gut scholarship programs?
— Slash Affordable Care Act outreach budgets and allow junk insurance plans?
— Reverse over 100 environmental rules, including those on clean air, clean water, and chemical safety?— Weaken Dodd-Frank, including gutting oversight of “too big to fail” banks and stress tests for mid-size financial institutions?
— Dial back OSHA workplace safety standards and inspections?
— Cut taxes to rich people while raising them via tariffs on working class folks?
— Change the Federal Trade Commission to allow more monopolistic, rip-off corporate behavior?
— Make it harder to vote and harass Blue states by demanding their voter information?
— Work to prosecute women who have miscarriages or abortions?
— Make it harder to qualify for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI)?
— End auto emission standards and increase our reliance on fossil fuels?
— Pack the courts with judges the American Bar Association says are “unqualified”?
— Destroy our faith in our elections and set up election workers for harassment?
— Fire the Inspectors General (who find waste, fraud, and abuse) across multiple federal agencies?
— Weaken whistleblower protections?
— Put the military on the streets of our cities in violation of Posse Comitatus?
— Use state power to punish political opponents and those who’ve investigated Trump’s crimes, alleged Russian collusion, and corruption?
— Create a network of concentration camps across America?
— Allow a shadow cabinet of billionaires and theocrats via Project 2025?
— Attack judges and prosecutors, leading to violence and threats of violence?
— Foment violence (like on January 6th) as a political strategy?
— Destroy our asylum and refugee systems?
— Pardon insurrectionists, rapists, cybercriminals, and other wealthy criminals?
— Defund the IRS so they can no longer audit the morbidly rich, leading to the loss of hundreds of billions in federal revenues?
— Ban books and censor libraries?
— Criminalize trans and queer people?
— Roll back gun safety measures? — Defund the arts, humanities, and public media?
— Gut vaccine and other programs that keep Americans healthy?
— Nakedly politicize the military?
— Expand federal surveillance powers while kneecapping oversight?
— Criminalize free speech, particularly on college campuses?
— Attempt to revoke birthright citizenship?
— Attack press freedom and bar the Associated Press from the White House?
— Sabotage the US Postal Service?
— Undermine the census?
— Scale back civil and women’s rights enforcement?
— Normalize autocratic language like “vermin,” “scum,” and calling immigrants “animals”?
— Expel millions of brown-skinned immigrants who’ve already gone through the legal process to get work permits and are on a path toward citizenship?
— Create international fiscal chaos with an on-again, off-again TACO tariff policy?
— Cancel the suicide hotline for queer kids?— Gut our national parks and sell off our federal lands to wealthy friends of the administration?
— Create a vast, secret, unaccountable police force with masked officers whose identity is concealed?
— Allow the president to accept hundreds of millions in obvious bribes from foreign powers in violation of the Constitution?
— Work so hard to conceal the crimes of a notorious sexual predator?

And this, of course, is just a partial list of the ways Trump and the GOP have weakened our nation, reduced our standing and prestige in the world, corrupted our government, and immiserated working class families.

Many of the theories about why Trump and the GOP would enthusiastically do so much damage to our people, our military, and our democracy contradict others.

For example, why would billionaires want tax cuts at the expense of damaging the economy that made them rich? Why would we promote a muscular military policy like bombing Iran while simultaneously destroying morale within the ranks and kneecapping our intelligence agencies?

“Something is happening here but you don’t know what it is,” sang Bob Dylan back in the 1960s.

Today, we’re there.

Why do you think Trump and the GOP are working so hard to ruin our country?

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2025? 1WorldHope Jul 19 #1
Project 2025, specifically electron_blue Jul 20 #81
White Conservstives think democracy doesn't work for them SARose Jul 19 #2
They think Democracy doesn't work for them because BaronChocula Jul 19 #17
Conservatives & democracy: Dulcinea Jul 19 #25
A good articulated insight Gum Logger Jul 20 #82
K&R markie Jul 19 #3
It's the Republican dystopian view of America. J_William_Ryan Jul 19 #4
This. And they want to go WAY back... ananda Jul 19 #23
Agreed on the underestimating of climate change misanthrope Jul 19 #50
It's hard to see how it could not. ananda Jul 19 #52
What you have described is the antebellum South misanthrope Jul 19 #54
Money, power, cruelty. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #5
they know they can manipulate cowards. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 19 #6
Don't know why but... moondust Jul 19 #7
sounds right. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #14
Egoism Ping Tung Jul 19 #8
We make the mistaken assumption that there is a Gaugamela Jul 19 #9
if you are accustomed to privelege MadameButterfly Jul 19 #33
works for me! Native Jul 20 #84
Because Trump works for Russia, the Fossil Fuel Industries, Saudi Arabia, and he is deeply mentally ill. Botany Jul 19 #10
Christo Fascist agenda, as you said Alice Kramden Jul 19 #21
In my humble opinion OddMom20 Jul 19 #11
Moral collapse of society, engendered by the right wing dedl67 Jul 19 #12
DAMN good question. Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #13
Money:More is never enough. multigraincracker Jul 19 #15
Because they saw this election as their last chance for complete and total control, which they believe now they have, Karasu Jul 19 #16
I've been puzzling over this for awhile... jmbar2 Jul 19 #18
They want to collapse all government protections and functions to take over and rule us like peasants kimbutgar Jul 19 #19
Turning America into a shithole country poli-junkie Jul 19 #20
it's not just trump kbowman Jul 19 #22
Chaos - they need chaos to fully loot the country alittlelark Jul 19 #24
Re-arranging the deck chairs as humanity faces a cascade of environmental and social calamities PufPuf23 Jul 19 #26
Putin gave them a deadline. blm Jul 19 #27
Short answer: They're working for our enemies. Iggo Jul 19 #28
Anyone know when they will raise the Russian flag over the WH?? vapor2 Jul 19 #53
All of the above, Mr. Hartmann, and as usual, B.See Jul 19 #29
Most likely the second one. Dulcinea Jul 19 #30
"And of course this is just a partial list......."!!! I was exhausted by the time I got to this line, thinking to..... FadedMullet Jul 19 #31
6th grade teacher Blue Full Moon Jul 19 #32
I'm amazed people are still confused - Nigrum Cattus Jul 19 #34
You don't think that whathehell Jul 19 #48
It's simple, greed and power with no consequences. Until there are consequences for their actions and we as a people Cheezoholic Jul 19 #35
Trump is a malignant narcissist MadameButterfly Jul 19 #36
Trump is somewhat similar to 'The Mule' in Asimov's "Second Foundation" dedl67 Jul 19 #39
He will eventually alienate everyone MadameButterfly Jul 19 #44
Everything has always been about him malaise Jul 19 #37
They and the 1% will gain even more money and power. That's all they care about. It's an illness. Fil1957 Jul 19 #38
When they have to spend all their money on security MadameButterfly Jul 19 #45
I've struggled with this question too.... Bread and Circuses Jul 19 #40
I think it has to do with Trump's desire to control everything, and his decisions Ocelot II Jul 19 #41
Trump's desire to control comes from MadameButterfly Jul 19 #46
The perfect storm seabiscuit5920 Jul 19 #42
They want to make their current control permanent MadameButterfly Jul 19 #47
Hollywood bmichaelh Jul 19 #43
Trump realizes very little MadameButterfly Jul 19 #49
Had to laugh at the 1939 cinema reference misanthrope Jul 19 #56
Short answer: Money and Power. emulatorloo Jul 19 #51
My amateur theory is they're destroying the middle class because they don't need it anymore FullySupportDems Jul 19 #55
On some various levels his reasons are likely of all of the above. Bev54 Jul 19 #57
The usual "rational" explainations are no longer "rational" as the actions you describe will only create devastation and LT Barclay Jul 19 #58
Authoritarianism pervades American society iemanja Jul 19 #59
"The rich hate us" blubunyip Jul 20 #66
And why did millions of people vote for this? Oh yeah...because the FUCKING CORPORATE MEDIA enabled progressoid Jul 20 #60
Hatred and greed. niyad Jul 20 #61
i'm currently going for "private equity hostile takeover" rampartd Jul 20 #62
Putin told Trump... GiqueCee Jul 20 #63
This!!! Excellent & a must read Joinfortmill Jul 20 #70
Because they're not running a government, they're running a chop shop hatrack Jul 20 #64
the killing of the American dream..... Historic NY Jul 20 #65
My first thought was this is the making of feudalism Joinfortmill Jul 20 #67
re: "Why would Trump and the GOP..." - I think it is important to distinguish the two... thesquanderer Jul 20 #68
Serfs and barons is the social order they are intent on establishing. lark Jul 20 #69
Must destroy democracy to roll out the New Feudalism Kid Berwyn Jul 20 #71
At the pinnacle of wealth and power The Blue Flower Jul 20 #72
K&R spanone Jul 20 #73
It's natural to want to want to find out one big reason that explains it all jgmiller Jul 20 #74
Their corporate owners devoutly believe in this: TygrBright Jul 20 #75
Don't forget to include the MAGA voters. They started this mess. nt Hotler Jul 20 #76
They are not working hard at all. Raven123 Jul 20 #77
I have come to believe that many of that group WANT people to DIE RandomNumbers Jul 20 #78
They are in it for themselves. They care not for our country. Norrrm Jul 20 #79
Democracy has to fail badly enough so that an autocrat/fixer is a plausible solution. nt hay rick Jul 20 #80
Putin paid good money for this relayerbob Jul 20 #83
Speaking strictly about trump, I believe he's addicted to revenge, Native Jul 20 #85
Kleptocracy, plain and simple orangecrush Jul 20 #86
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