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snot

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2. A few questions:
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jul 19

No one disputes that Epstein hosted frequent sex parties that were attended by many powerful people including Democratic politicians and patrons. There were hundreds of victims, not one of whom has ever been found to have lied and perhaps the most prominent of whom – Virginia Giuffre, who accused Prince Andrew and others as well as Epstein – is now dead (along with other Epstein-associates' "suicides," e.g., Jean Luc Brunel and Steven Hoffenberg; and Mark Middleton, a former special advisor to Pres. Clinton with ties to Epstein was found hanging from a noose with a shotgun blast through his chest). No one seriously believes that Epstein and Maxwell were the only abusers (if they were, why not be more discreet about it; why were their victims rolled out at parties like a dessert cart?)

As for whether any Democrats were involved, if Epstein was in fact operating a blackmail operation, wouldn't he have wanted to ensnare clients from across the political spectrum? Why did Pres. Clinton visit Epstein's island four times? How could he not have known of Epstein's predilections, as he claimed? And he wasn't the only Democrat associating with Epstein.

The key question for me re- the Democrats is, however, why did we hear almost nothing from them about the Epstein case during the four years of the Biden admin – especially if the only abusers were Republicans? Why not go ahead and prosecute them? Sure, we all want to protect the victims, but a number of them were already pursuing claims publicly (much of what info we do have was obtained through their law suits), and the names of other victims could have been redacted. Why didn't the DoJ at least follow the money to track down where Epstein's enormous wealth came from?

Why was Maxwell never offered a plea deal in exchange for her testimony, why was she never even questioned about any alleged "clients"? (See https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ghislaine-maxwell-wants-to-testify-before-congress-about-epstein-files-source-claims-she-would-welcome-the-chance-to-tell-the-truth/ar-AA1IzHmR .)

I believe that the more carefully you look into this matter, the more concerned you'll feel.

I'm afraid I don't believe that Dems have always called out their own – indeed, it seems to me that they've only done it vis a vis Dem politicians who are either too old and decrepit to be of political consequence or who are seen as too successfully progressive (e.g., Al Franken). (I see the Republicans as similar in this regard, calling out Republican politicians only if they're either politically inconsequential or they aren't toeing the establishment party line.)


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