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Bluetus

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55. Exactly the case. It is hard to imagine Trump having the self-restraint

Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:30 AM

Jul 19

that he has NEVER shown throughout his life. But he has been very careful to cover up evidence of his sex crimes with NDAs, threats, payoffs, and blackmail. So we may never see clear evidence of Trump raping a 14-year-old. Anybody who is following the Epstein story with such a hope is likely to be as disappointed as they were with Mueller, Smith, Comey and everyone else who succumbed to Trump's pressure.

The point, and it seems we both agree on this, is that the crime is much bigger than that. Clearly Trump had a direct involvement in recruiting and grooming prostitutes for Epstein. And it is highly likely that Trump had a major role in drawing lecherous, powerful old men into Epstein's Kompromat machine. It is that Kompromat machine, either through direct extortion, or more likely by selling the Kompromat to other governments, that made the big bucks. Sex was the bait, not the financial engine.

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I'd like to know why Maxwell & Epstein were tried & convicted & men weren't? SheltieLover Jul 18 #1

Epstein never had a trial; he was unalived before that could happen. I wonder why. OMGWTF Jul 18 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Dave says Jul 18 #20

He was tried with regard to one girl early 2000s. A deal was cut and he walked. Dave says Jul 18 #21

And that's a whole other major scandal. yardwork Jul 18 #24

Yup Dave says Jul 18 #26

Do he continued his illegal activities... SheltieLover Jul 18 #31

Dave says............ Upthevibe Jul 18 #48

Still, he should've had a lot of company in prison awaiting trial SheltieLover Jul 18 #30

Maybe 1,000 (seems like a reasonable number) very wealthy men wanted him dead wolfie001 Jul 18 #36

Robert Parry UpInArms Jul 18 #2

You reminded me of the website he founded ... cliffside Jul 18 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author MrWowWow Jul 18 #43

Parry broke the story in 1985 UpInArms Jul 18 #47

Sheldon Whitehouse, who knows Wyden's work, revealed that yesterday on Lawrence. Whitehouse says that 'following the ancianita Jul 18 #3

It's always been my belief that the reason AG Garland took so long to appoint a SC was because once he reviewed the in2herbs Jul 18 #5

Even the possibility that the stolen documents are a minor part of a conspiracy.., harumph Jul 18 #9

It is more probable kiri Jul 18 #18

kiri ............. Upthevibe Jul 18 #49

John Kerry was investigating an international criminal syndicate. yardwork Jul 18 #25

Well yeah...... that Swift Boat bullshit did the trick. groundloop Jul 18 #38

So did changing the votes in Ohio. yardwork Jul 18 #39

Remember DENVERPOPS Jul 18 #44

Makes a lot of sense to me. Joinfortmill Jul 18 #27

So let's hear from all the AG's (state and Fed) involved at every step. Transparency y'know... Evolve Dammit Jul 18 #40

And, why wasn't all of this brought to light during Biden's 4 years? Escape Jul 18 #6

Yet another simple answer.... reACTIONary Jul 18 #41

Escape........ Upthevibe Jul 18 #50

Pam Bondi has released the Jeffrey Epstein list! Ray Bruns Jul 18 #7

Oh, damn, the plot thickens. republianmushroom Jul 18 #8

Why is it never enough? Marthe48 Jul 18 #13

Follow the money! peggysue2 Jul 18 #10

Blackmail money? High class brothels seem to always have been used for blackmail. LiberalArkie Jul 18 #11

Elon??? JCMach1 Jul 18 #12

Sorry Ron. progressoid Jul 18 #14

He's NO damned "Dear Leader" to me! calimary Jul 18 #15

I would pay to watch that fugly mop sheared off. 3catwoman3 Jul 19 #53

At least Romney had some dignity. calimary Jul 19 #57

so much , i cant even find any verbs to describe what is going on with out AllaN01Bear Jul 18 #16

Russia and republicons - not a hoax. A treasonous ripoff of America BoRaGard Jul 18 #17

TickTock Joinfortmill Jul 18 #22

"Follow the money" - ALWAYS high priority in any legit investigation. snot Jul 18 #23

I believe the townhouse was a gift.. Hope22 Jul 18 #33

International sex trafficking based in Russia and Eastern Europe. yardwork Jul 18 #28

It was for the likes of Trump and Epstein that bitcoin and others were invented usonian Jul 18 #29

JP Morgan Bank settled a lawsuit re: Epstein's operation with the US Virgin Islands... AntiFascist Jul 18 #32

This is how the filthy-rich get rich off the poor. Farmer-Rick Jul 18 #34

The Soviet Union had amassed enormous wealth prior to its breakup, probably due to its oil and other deposits... AntiFascist Jul 18 #35

PLEASE stop referring to this as a sex scandal or a sex trafficking operation Bluetus Jul 18 #37

Let's add a slash mark NJCher Jul 19 #54

Exactly the case. It is hard to imagine Trump having the self-restraint Bluetus Jul 19 #55

yep, that's it NJCher Jul 19 #56

It is probably useful to recall how things were when Epstein was putting this together Bluetus Jul 19 #58

I'm lucky to have two good senators, Wyden and Merkley Hassler Jul 18 #42

I have daughters and granddaughters, not to mention a precious little great grandniece. PatrickforB Jul 18 #45

Kick orangecrush Jul 18 #46

Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jul 18 #51

I hope Wyden has bodyguards Warpy Jul 19 #52