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snot

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Fri Jul 18, 2025, 07:42 PM Jul 18

Epstein: Some Loose Ends and Implications [View all]

Sorry if this is a bit of a rant, but I'm trying to summarize a few loose Epstein ends and spell out a few implications.

“Dr. Kristin Roman, a medical examiner for New York City who conducted the autopsy that Dr. Baden observed, at first did not classify the death as a suicide and listed the manner of death as ‘pending.’ A few days later, Dr. Sampson said she had reviewed additional evidence and changed the ruling to suicide.” — https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-a-closer-look-60-minutes-2020-01-05/ . What was Dr. Sampson’s “additional evidence”?

Sampson and Baden, who actually examined Epstein’s body, reached differing conclusions as to how he died, but they've agreed that in order to be sure, they would need to see the photo that should have been taken showing Epstein’s location and position when found. Is there any such photo, and if so, where is it? Granted that Epstein was cut down in case he was still alive, but once it became clear that he was dead, shouldn’t it pretty obviously have been treated as a suspicious death – if only to ward off “conspiracy theories,” goven the level of public interest in this case – with an effort made to document the scene, including the body, before it was moved any more than necessary?

The noose that allegedly killed Epstein was supposedly torn from a sheet or uniform; and more than one noose was found in his cell. There were extra sheets found in Epstein’s cell as well as an extra mattress (for which I've seen no explanation). More than one noose was also found in the cell, and there’s controversy over which, if any of them, was the one actually used in Epstein’s demise; that question shouldn’t have been hard to resolve, and the fact that it is, is odd in itself. Beyond that, was any effort made to confirm which if any of the sheets and clothing found in the cell the noose was actually fashioned from (see https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-epsteins-suicide-new-details-revealed/story?id=100405667 )? If not, why not?

Where are the results of the DNA tests on the noose, which it was believed might help confirm whether anyone besides Epstein had used it in causing his death?

Is it true that Epstein was overheard berating himself for cowardice before his death (if so, that would seem to me to support suicide).

As far as I've seen, neither Biden’s nor Trump’s admins (and scarcely anyone defending either of them) has addressed Alex Acosta’s explanation for why Epstein received such a sweetheart deal the first time he was charged with trafficking minors – i.e., Acosta’s statement that he’d been told that Epstein was part of “intel” and to leave the case alone. Either Acosta was telling a truth that both Biden’s and Trump’s admins apparently prefer to pretend has never been mentioned or, if Acosta lied in order to excuse/cover up his own screw-up in failing to adequately prosecute a horrific sex criminal, why hasn’t either admin said so? Why has Acosta instead been rewarded with even more important positions?

It’s been 6 years since the FBI raided Epstein’s mansions on “Pedo Island,” in Manhattan, & elsewhere, reportedly taking possession of tons of videos and records; and one might have thought that, for multiple reasons, nearly the first thing they’d have done next is to look at those that might incriminate Epstein’s alleged “clients.” Not only might such evidence (1) make possible the prosecution of other sex criminals, but it might also (2) enable the feds to leverage additional suspects to testify against one another and perhaps reveal still other crimes and potential criminals, (3) thus perhaps aiding in the prosecution of Epstein and Maxwell AND (4) in securing convections against additional offenders and preventing further abuse; AND, arguably at least as importantly, such evidence might have revealed (5) which governmental officials or other important people might have been subjected to blackmail, possibly paid in political or other favors as well as cash (don’t we have a right to know which decisions made by our government were made for corrupt reasons?), (6) AND whether such blackmail served not only Epstein but also any domestic and/or foreign intel agencies, possibly leading to convictions for treason.

So I find it hard to imagine an innocent explanation for why, during that 6 year delay, we first heard little or nothing from the Biden admin about the progress of the investigation, certainly nothing that might actually incriminate anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell, and then were suddenly told by the Trump admin that there was nothing to see.

(The Trump admin’s various statements and tweets about the Epstein case have merely made any possible innocent explanations seem even more implausible. If the videos taken into evidence contained nothing but porn downloaded by Epstein from the internet, why were he and Maxwell charged with trafficking minors, and what was the point of all the cameras in Epstein’s mansions? If there there was “nothing to see” in the files, how can they be a “hoax”? If there were in fact either legit or hoaxed materials that might have been used against either Trump or other Republicans but not any Dems, why didn’t the Dems use them during Biden’s term? If the materials, whether legit or hoaxed, would tend to incriminate Dems but not any Republicans, are we really to believe that Trump wouldn’t use them somehow?)

(Nevermind the relatively mountainous testimony of some of the victims trafficked, and all the other suspicious deaths or disappearances of individuals involved in this case.)

The ONLY explanations that make any sense to me are that (1) at least some of BOTH Republicans and Dems – and/or their important patrons – were in fact involved in the abuse, leading to a Mexican stand-off; and/or (2) those in possession of the evidence incriminating Epstein’s various clients aren't prosecuting them because they want to be able to continue to use it to manipulate said clients, and they won’t be able to do that if all the beans are spilled. Meaning that either at least some Dems AND Republicans (or their patrons) either ARE sex offenders whose secret crimes may well have been used to induce them to act in betrayal of their proper constituencies, AND/OR both Dems AND Republicans are blackmailers who may have used the evidence to induce such betrayals and/or hope to continue to do so.

Note, I do not mean to smear all Dems or all Republicans. I just find it difficult to make sense of this history unless there are at least a few important rotten apples on both sides.


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