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12. I guess that's possible.

Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:00 AM

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I've been very reluctant to believe that TrumpCo planned this shooting because a person in the crowd was shot and killed, and the shooter himself was shot and killed.

So to believe that this was planned we have to believe that somebody talked that kid into shooting at Trump while he was standing in front of a crowd, knowing there would likely be other victims. And we have to believe that the kid was told not to shoot Trump but to make it look close. And we have to believe that demented Donny pulled off the acting of a lifetime, as he reacted in split-seconds. And we have to believe that this kid thought he'd survive or was so committed he was ready to die for the cause. And we have to believe that whoever planned this either involved dozens of local, state and federal law enforcement in this conspiracy (and not one has broken silence) or just hoped nobody would notice the kid on the roof.

All this seems rather implausible to me. I think it was just dumb luck for TrumpCo and a tragedy for the people who died. And the rest of us.

Also, whatever grazed Trump's ear barely broke the skin and that's why it healed quickly. More dumb luck.

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New angle from Butler, PA - Appears to show staging of Trump's "Fight, fight, fight" photo. [View all] Snarkoleptic Friday OP

Feasible but need more evidence no_hypocrisy Friday #1

Poppycock NoRethugFriends Friday #2

So, we have a feeble demented 78 year old man Fiendish Thingy Friday #3

USA Today has a detailed timeline showing he was on the ground no more than 1:25. Snarkoleptic Friday #9

Kid shooter was also a maga. Scrivener7 Friday #10

So the SS was in on the hoax? Fiendish Thingy Friday #11

SS ineptitude is a possbility and people died for this stunt. Snarkoleptic Friday #15

So, you believe the shooting was staged, and arranged in advance by the campaign? Fiendish Thingy Friday #16

I think it may have been staged. Snarkoleptic Friday #23

A "joke" that killed two people and wounded a few others? Fiendish Thingy Friday #24

Have you ever been a Federal LEO and organized, participated in, and/or... Wuddles440 Friday #52

So the flaws in the narrative suggest it was staged? Fiendish Thingy Friday #68

See post 40. Do you actually believe anything coming from the trump admin? brush Friday #42

There should either be a scar or a chunk of ear missing. lapfog_1 Friday #4

He was probably asked to shoot above the crowd but he screwed up the shot. travelingthrulife Friday #6

I guess that's possible. yardwork Friday #12

Not to mention, only a very very tiny change in angle could have seriously killed Trump karynnj Friday #76

Agreed. yardwork Friday #78

Ronny Jackson publicly stated Trump had a 2cm gunshot wound, which is untrue. Snarkoleptic Friday #7

That is obviously a lie but nothing new from that quack. yardwork Friday #13

Known drinker doctor may have been seeing double. Attilatheblond Friday #26

Pretty obvious IMO the SS and the kid shooter were in on it, but the kid shooter... brush Friday #40

The kid was probably told he would never be convicted or see prison biophile Friday #58

Absolutely. Agreed. The magats will stop at nothing. As you say, the kid never had a chance as he would be dead. brush Friday #60

How much investigating was done afterward? bucolic_frolic Friday #5

I just posted about this inside another thread. Here are the odd happenings the new video shows: Scrivener7 Friday #8

So the Trump team knew in advance that he would be shot? Fiendish Thingy Friday #17

The SS let the shooter, a 22 year old hapless maga, Scrivener7 Friday #20

SS was in on it too. brush Friday #43

The hydraulic boom which supported the flag suddenly dropped as hydraulic fluid sprayed the crowd. John1956PA Friday #14

You're just providing inconvenient facts to spoil a perfectly good conspiracy theory. Fiendish Thingy Friday #18

Thank you. The least that should be able to do in follow up . . . John1956PA Friday #21

See post 22. You may like it, but it's not fact. It never happened. It's just a conspiracy theory. Scrivener7 Friday #25

So, you believe the shooting was staged? Fiendish Thingy Friday #28

Yes. Not the whole team, but a few who needed to know. Scrivener7 Friday #29

Thanks Fiendish Thingy Friday #30

But you believed the boom was shot when the owner has confirmed that it wasn't. So there's that. Scrivener7 Friday #31

I believe the boom wasn't deliberately lowered to put the flag in the perfect photo op. Fiendish Thingy Friday #33

And you believed the boom was shot when the owner Scrivener7 Friday #34

My Reply No. 57 contains the following image taken from a video showing the spray of hydraulic fluid. John1956PA Friday #59

Except the boom owner says his equipment was not damaged. See post 22. Scrivener7 Friday #62

The damage might have been to some other a component of the pressurized hydraulic schematic. John1956PA Friday #69

Read the article linked at post 22. The guy owned the booms and the cranes. He has confirmed his equipment Scrivener7 Friday #71

I am talking about the green tractor. John1956PA Friday #73

OK, but the guy who owned the cranes and booms for the flags said his equipment wasn't damaged. Scrivener7 Friday #75

No. 1: The guy is a MAGA who said he would loan the equipment all over again. I do not trust what MAGAs say. John1956PA Friday #77

LOL! Yes, no doubt the green tractor was powering something. Just not the flags. BECAUSE the owner Scrivener7 Friday #79

I am curious, what is the difference between a boom and a crane? I do not know, and I would like to learn. John1956PA Friday #80

Do you believe Trump knew? Fiendish Thingy Friday #32

Yes. Scrivener7 Friday #37

So, Susie Wiles and Chris Civitta (sp?) knew for sure? Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #35

I don't know who knew. I know that a 22 year old maga nursing home orderly outmaneuvered the Secret Service Scrivener7 Friday #36

You're making good points. The only thing I don't agree on is that the shooter our maneuvered the SS. brush Friday #45

I agree with you, and I think the fact the kid was maga supports you. But the person I was responding to is Scrivener7 Friday #46

We're on the same page. brush Friday #48

This !! It doesn't take a village to stage this just a few insiders uponit7771 Friday #66

I agree with this. hamsterjill Friday #74

I hadn't heard that, so searched for info and found a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article. Snarkoleptic Friday #22

Here is a video posted on X. John1956PA Friday #27

perfect timing for the photo WhiteTara Friday #47

Color me surprised. Not at all. BoRaGard Friday #19

Crazy conspiracy theory that somehow survives here. Melon Friday #38

Ben Franklin: "Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead"" ms liberty Friday #39

First rule of assassination... Kill the assassin. Norrrm Friday #41

Book recently published about this CozyMystery Friday #44

so was killing the veteran part of the plan too or just an accident eShirl Friday #49

I sure hope this Greg_In_SF Friday #50

See post 22. The vehicle that was shot wasn't the crane holding the flag. Scrivener7 Friday #51

As I have suggested in other posts on this thread, the green tractor might have taken the hit by the projectile. John1956PA Friday #63

I have always been puzzled as to why the flag was lowered over the scene. Maybe someone riversedge Friday #53

My Reply No. 20 contains a link to an X video showing a spray of hydraulic fluid . . . John1956PA Friday #57

Reddit never fails to entertain. egduj Friday #54

Simple... EarthAbides Friday #55

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Friday #56

Hard pass on this tinfoilhatism CT bollocks. It's a bad look for DU to see this BlueAnon crackpottery flung out here. Celerity Friday #61

DUers don't trust Trump enough to give him any benefit of the doubt on anything uponit7771 Friday #67

It's not giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, it's taking a clip and immediately using a frame of wild CT Celerity Friday #70

It's embarrassing. demmiblue Friday #82

I'm leaning stages at this point, TF was that shit ?!! uponit7771 Friday #64

I'm wore ForgedCrank Friday #65

So they knowingly sacrificed a MAGA voter and the shooter was such a good shot the bullet just doc03 Friday #72

I doubt anything hit his ear MorbidButterflyTat Friday #81