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EdmondDantes_

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72. Not really racist as race isn't the determining factor

Reply to Ms. Toad (Reply #50)

Wed Jul 16, 2025, 07:31 AM

Jul 16

Maybe classist or something since the dividing line is documentation status.

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A final, comprehensive look at how Trump won in 2024 and how Democrats lost core parts of their coalition [View all] Celerity Jul 15 OP

Also can be retitle: Groups who in 2024 discovered that the grass is indeed NOT greener on the other side. Baitball Blogger Jul 15 #1

or, "The Leopards Guide To Whats for Dinner" Strelnikov_ Jul 15 #40

I often disagree with your positions... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #2

I remember the warnings in October 2024 Funtatlaguy Jul 15 #3

If those numbers were correct WSHazel Jul 15 #4

The problem is they are largely"racist". How do you get people to open their eyes.. yourout Jul 15 #6

Your theory is that black, Asian, and hispanic men and women are racist? EdmondDantes_ Jul 15 #8

A lot of ethnics can be and are racist Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #11

The stats are grouped by race. Almost everything is down. Melon Jul 15 #15

Why do you blame democrats for what republicans do Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #18

Correct. Too many people here don't realize that a Democrat has NEVER won the majority of the White vote Wiz Imp Jul 15 #33

This, exactly this. K&R PunkinPi Jul 16 #71

Then how do you account for NJCher Jul 17 #81

Hispanic is not officially a race. It is considered an ethnicity. Wiz Imp Jul 15 #23

I don't care about hardcore MAGA WSHazel Jul 15 #9

Quotas and race based affirmative action have been a loser for some time fujiyamasan Jul 16 #68

I think there is even support for affirmative action WSHazel Jul 16 #73

It became particularly unhinged in places like SF fujiyamasan Jul 16 #74

I remember being shocked when I heard that at one point something like only 6% of Biden's appointments to the federal Midwestern Democrat Jul 17 #82

It's a way for more "consultants" to grift the party fujiyamasan Jul 17 #83

Right wing talking point Cirsium Jul 15 #12

Please. The heading racist is used ad nauseam here. But people in ethnic groups Melon Jul 15 #16

One thing that is always consistent about Trump is he has always been a racist AZProgressive Jul 15 #19

I don't disagree about trump Melon Jul 15 #22

Trump is going after those who follow the legal process AZProgressive Jul 15 #28

While I agree with your basic point that slapping an easy label on folks and dismissing them is stupid, Ms. Toad Jul 15 #50

So....the Mexicans not liking the Mexicans are racist? Melon Jul 16 #62

Not really racist as race isn't the determining factor EdmondDantes_ Jul 16 #72

I'd be interested in seeing if this study has been updated fujiyamasan Jul 17 #75

I am skeptical about that Cirsium Jul 15 #56

" That is where an adjustment is needed in order to win elections" Yes. Melon Jul 16 #66

Hard to believe Cirsium Jul 15 #21

Look at the stats Melon Jul 15 #25

Harris was a good candidate WSHazel Jul 15 #38

Huh? Cirsium Jul 15 #55

I'm not even sure all of this comes down to race fujiyamasan Jul 17 #76

You are focusing on presidential elections Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #29

A large portion of Black Trump voters probably did so because of bigoted attitudes towards immigrants. Wiz Imp Jul 15 #34

Very few black males voted for trump Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #39

Huh? Between 20% & 25% of Black Males voted for Trump. That's not very few. That's significant. Wiz Imp Jul 15 #46

I think it's more insulting saying they were racist Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #48

🙄 Wiz Imp Jul 15 #57

I'm not sure what you mean Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #59

Yes, the "Trump checks" were great branding fujiyamasan Jul 17 #78

I see how dictators come to power Keepthesoulalive Jul 17 #84

Yes, so much of it comes down to basic grifting fujiyamasan Jul 17 #86

Or they felt like the administration fujiyamasan Jul 17 #77

Today saw mention of Rush Limbaugh's 1994 claim that Chelsea Clinton's school required betsuni Jul 15 #26

The figures in the OP are *shifts* from 2020 to 2024, not the margins in 2024 muriel_volestrangler Jul 16 #70

Because a bunch of brainless incels looked at Trump's soft, doughy body, Aristus Jul 15 #5

Republicans had a narrative... biocube Jul 15 #7

The total vote count dropped from 20's 155+ million to 24's 152+ million because the people were disillusioned. Uncle Joe Jul 15 #10

2020 was an "asterisk election" WarGamer Jul 15 #17

It wasn't just Covid-19 that made 2020 special. Uncle Joe Jul 15 #27

Biden dropping out just months before the election was a big problem for our Party. jalan48 Jul 15 #13

"Harris would not have fared better with higher turnout." Shrek Jul 15 #14

Misogyny Bettie Jul 15 #24

Simplistic JoFerret Jul 15 #31

Can we focus on the senate and congress Keepthesoulalive Jul 15 #45

They are leaping to a nonsensical conclusion. Wiz Imp Jul 15 #37

That's a good point n/t leftstreet Jul 15 #44

And that just shows that Pew research on this cannot be trusted with this research standingtall Jul 16 #67

Below is the figure for the overall voter breakdown by Pew. Trump's coalition was more diverse than previously andym Jul 15 #20

Thank you for the additional data Celerity Jul 15 #41

The ongoing open border many people complained about. Omnipresent Jul 15 #30

The only people that really cared about the border WSHazel Jul 15 #42

The border played to Trump's strength fujiyamasan Jul 17 #79

Historically, only one sitting VP has won election since 1836 MichMan Jul 15 #32

So perhaps all those preelection polls that were dismissed out of hand sarisataka Jul 15 #35

Yes. obnoxiousdrunk Jul 15 #36

Old enough to remember that. WarGamer Jul 15 #53

You were one of the few who saw the writing on the wall Polybius Jul 16 #64

All those who dismissed them here were extremely naive, and I'm being kind Polybius Jul 16 #63

Yes there was a lot of delusion fujiyamasan Jul 17 #80

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 15 #43

They left out the part where Musk cheated for Trump FoggyLake Jul 15 #47

I'm guessing that the Hispanic vote will shift more to the Dems in 2026. TheRickles Jul 15 #49

I'm not surprised by the men. Any of them. But WHAT self-respecting WOMAN ... CousinIT Jul 15 #51

How much of those % are people just staying home? JCMach1 Jul 15 #52

I just finished reading the article. Blue Spark Jul 15 #54

Voter suppression full court press JCMach1 Jul 16 #61

Because 2020 was different, with record turn-out Polybius Jul 16 #65

Which states eliminated mail in voting? Kaleva Jul 17 #85

Democrats have to invest in secondary media standingtall Jul 16 #69

It was thought, after that lame garbage island joke at RNC GusBob Jul 15 #58

Kick dalton99a Jul 15 #60

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