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lapucelle

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34. Amnesty admits on page 101 of their report that the war does not fit the definition of genocide.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Apr 25

They go on to airily dismiss the definition articulated in in the Geneva Convention as “an overly cramped interpretation of international jurisprudence".

Amnesty forced readers to wade through 101 pages of spin before getting to a discussion of the Geneva Convention's clear parameters for a finding of genocide. Amnesty helpfully make the case for this not being a genocide by its own admission on page 101 and in its footnotes for the discussion that follows which include case citations for the following cases.

In 2007, in Bosnia v. Serbia, the International Court of Justice found that genocidal intent can only be established when it is the only plausible inference to be drawn from a nation’s pattern of conduct. The court reaffirmed this standard in 2015 in Croatia v. Serbia.

Why did Amnesty cite the cases despite the fact that the rulings were contrary to Amnesty's claims concerning an "overly cramped interpretation of genocide"? Amnesty cited the cases to cherry pick quotes from a dissent that they saw as helpful to their dubious claim.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/8668/2024/en/

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The Geneva Convention is an international treaty with clearly articulated definitions, provisions, and conditions. There is a a body of case law supporting the specific intent requirement for a finding of genocide. This war does not fit it.

The fact that Ireland and Amnesty are seeking to redefine the term "genocide" in order to make their case against Israel underscores the weakness of the genocide claim.



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Israel's critics are always accused of anti-Semitism , a charge that serves to silence even the mildest questioning of t IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 23 #1
Not always. Only when criticism of Israel is punctuated by overt antisemitism. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #15
Consortium News Is a left wing piece of garbage. They blame Ukraine and JohnSJ Apr 23 #2
Roger Waters is mentioned on Consortium News's "about" page as a major donor. N/T lapucelle Apr 23 #4
I guess that says it all. Thanks, I wasn't aware. JohnSJ Apr 23 #7
Consortium News changed the verb "settle" to the noun "settlers" in their fanciful retelling of Dayan's eulogy. lapucelle Apr 24 #10
Consortium News was 100% CORRECT about Bush and the Iraq war... Jack Valentino Apr 23 #5
Did you read the link I supplied: JohnSJ Apr 23 #6
No.... that anchor text is disconcerting indeed. Jack Valentino Apr 24 #8
Without question Iraq was a complete setup, and was the perfect example of unintended JohnSJ Apr 24 #9
Consortium News is rated left wing by both News Guard and Media Bias Fact Check. lapucelle Apr 24 #11
How odd of Consortium News to actually change a key word and conflate decontextualized lapucelle Apr 23 #3
The usual folks won't like this malaise Apr 24 #12
If by "usual folks" you mean DUers who object to changing words, lapucelle Apr 24 #13
They already don't Bettie Apr 24 #24
THIS malaise Apr 24 #25
Of course DUers don't like what is typically a right wing tactic. lapucelle Apr 25 #26
For context, which is entirely absent from your article: Beastly Boy Apr 24 #14
Genocide is not the answer IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 24 #16
"Genocide" is the strawman concocted by anti-Israel propagandists long before the Gaza war. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #17
UN defines genocide, is exactly what Israel is doing in Gaza IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 24 #19
What you cited is the incomplete definition of genocide, Beastly Boy Apr 24 #22
It is NOT what Israel is doing in Gaza, lapucelle Apr 25 #28
Israel is committing genocide in Gaza IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 25 #31
It's clear from your citation of the Geneva Convention that it is not genocide. lapucelle Apr 25 #32
Dec '24: Amnesty International investigation concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 25 #33
Amnesty admits on page 101 of their report that the war does not fit the definition of genocide. lapucelle Apr 25 #34
Trying individuals for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, and aggression IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 24 #20
Accusing, or even chargung, is not trying. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #23
They know where he lives. yagotme Apr 25 #27
So the ICC arrest warrant is not for genocide? lapucelle Apr 25 #29
countless families across Gaza, their lives shrouded in darkness of this genocide IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 24 #18
What does this response have to do with my post, or the invokation of Dayan inyour OP? Beastly Boy Apr 24 #21
Why would somebody born in Gaza be a "third generation Palestinian refugee"? lapucelle Apr 25 #30
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