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Dunc

(46 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 05:31 AM 6 hrs ago

Thing is they would vote for Trump again.

I’m originally from the Appalachia part of Pennsylvania. And some parts are absolute third world once where there were .
Good steel mill and coal jobs union jobs and today if lucky you can work at a dollar store back home. And yet my tribe members of Appalachia continue to vote the same way.


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Thing is they would vote for Trump again. (Original Post) Dunc 6 hrs ago OP
Why do they vote to cut their own noses off to spite their faces? SheltieLover 6 hrs ago #1
I know. Dunc 6 hrs ago #2
Exactly. OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #3
You can't cure stupid. MLWR 5 hrs ago #8
True. I just wish we would stop rewarding it. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #9
Never made sense to me why anyone who works for a living would vote R SheltieLover 5 hrs ago #4
Read this book: AverageOldGuy 4 hrs ago #12
They were raised to be tough, individualistic tough. cachukis 3 hrs ago #15
You know what would solve this problem? Ray Bruns 5 hrs ago #5
The backpack story.... democrank 5 hrs ago #6
Willful ignorance is a main reason DeeDeeNY 5 hrs ago #7
That is so true DFW 5 hrs ago #10
I expected to hear a declaration that she would vote for Trump again iemanja 4 hrs ago #11
the ghosts of coal companies and their company stores and company housing, Javaman 4 hrs ago #13
Damn straight! ABC123Easy 3 hrs ago #14

OldBaldy1701E

(10,839 posts)
3. Exactly.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:13 AM
5 hrs ago

Although I would say that it is a mistrust that was fueled by certain elements that did not want to lose their control or position. It seldom has a valid reason, just division for the sake of division.

They would rather watch it all burn than see anything change. That, and their 'Murican' egos which cannot let anything go nor allow anything to survive unless it is under the auspices of said group.

I'd say vindictiveness and arrogance were the major reasons. Too many people are in the 'I do it because I can' group.

SheltieLover

(79,021 posts)
4. Never made sense to me why anyone who works for a living would vote R
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:16 AM
5 hrs ago

Never once in my 70 yrs have they done anything to help the backbone of our country.

AverageOldGuy

(3,637 posts)
12. Read this book:
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 07:49 AM
4 hrs ago

"Dying of Whiteness."

Here's the synopsis copied from Amazon.

In election after election, conservative white Americans have embraced politicians who pledge to make their lives great again. But as Dying of Whiteness shows, right-wing policies put these voters' very health at risk—and in the end, threaten everyone's well-being. Physician and sociologist Jonathan M. Metzl travels across America's heartland seeking to better understand the politics of racial resentment and its impact on public health. Interviewing a range of Americans, he uncovers how racial anxieties led to the repeal of gun control laws in Missouri, fueled massive cuts to schools and social services in Kansas, and stymied healthcare reform across the country. Although such measures promised to restore greatness to white America, Metzl's systematic analysis of health data reveals they did just the opposite: these policies made life sicker, harder, and shorter in the very populations they purported to aid. Thus, white gun suicides soared, life expectancies fell, and school dropout rates rose.  

cachukis

(3,799 posts)
15. They were raised to be tough, individualistic tough.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 08:30 AM
3 hrs ago

Don't need no help. Old school thinking.

Ray Bruns

(6,169 posts)
5. You know what would solve this problem?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:29 AM
5 hrs ago

Another tax cut for billionaires and corporations.

democrank

(12,468 posts)
6. The backpack story....
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:41 AM
5 hrs ago

Kids eating what’s in their weekend backpack on the way home on Friday because they’re hungry. The fact that we have hungry children (or hungry anyone) in this country is an immoral disgrace.

Trump thinks people like Jeff Bezos need a tax break….even if the money comes from the SNAP program. Disgusting!

DeeDeeNY

(3,946 posts)
7. Willful ignorance is a main reason
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:52 AM
5 hrs ago

They eagerly absorb all the lies fed to them by Fox News, One America, and the like, and don't bother to check out what is going on around them. A very small percentage had watched any part of the Democratic Convention or had ever heard Kamala Harris speak. They knew only that Democrats were responsible for the high price of eggs.

DFW

(59,945 posts)
10. That is so true
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 07:06 AM
5 hrs ago

I didn't grow up in the Appalachian part of Virginia, but my dad took us through rural parts of Virginia when we were growing up, and we saw some fairly run-down areas--by far NOT the worst. It was the easiest thing in the world for us to imagine why some people call Pennsylvania "Pittsburgh in the west, Philadelphia in the east and Alabama in the middle."

Although one of my grandfathers was from South Carolina, my parents grew up in New York. It took another generation for parts of my family to migrate back to the south. I have cousins in both New Hampshire and Tennessee.

But the reason why ignorance and choosing against common sense, as far as I can tell, has to do with two factors (if you exclude poor education). That would be the media and religion. The media for the obvious reason that all they watch is Fox "News" and actually believe what the hear (Republicanese: here) there (Republicanese: their). Religion, because religion is these areas is used for what it was originally meant: as a control tactic. "Do what I tell you, or terrible things will happen to you. I know this because God says so, and he talks only to me, so believe no one but me." This is not religion as a reasoned scholarly set of philosophical meditations, but religion as a primitive control mechanism that is a less physical method of control that requires fear of the unknown rather than fear of physical torture. It is far more effective when trying to control the masses. I met plenty of people who were suffering that proudly called themselves as "God-fearing," when they would have done themselves a far greater favor by being "starvation-fearing." But some people might get upset if they know that their starvation only serves nasty people and not God.

In the 19th century, Karl Marx wrote that "Religion ist das Opium des Volkes," opium being, in that day, a widely available pacifying pain killer. These days, beer and a TV screen blaring Fox "News" fills the same role--just as addictive, but more affordable and thus widespread--not only legal, but encouraged. No wonder we have such an uphill battle.

iemanja

(57,690 posts)
11. I expected to hear a declaration that she would vote for Trump again
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 07:39 AM
4 hrs ago

There was none. His approval rating runs between 36-39%. That data suggests that a good number of Trump voters would not support him again. I expect that's especially so for Biden to Trump voters.

Javaman

(65,492 posts)
13. the ghosts of coal companies and their company stores and company housing,
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 07:53 AM
4 hrs ago

look upon them and envy the greed of the republicans.

ABC123Easy

(184 posts)
14. Damn straight!
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 08:22 AM
3 hrs ago

I'm from southwestern Va......a place that's red as your blood. Some places look like you're in a 3rd world country. Every time I go home I purposefully drive around until I spot a junked car with a Dump sticker on it. Doesn't take long.

I live around Camp Lejeune now and there are places here that would make Somalia look like Beverly hills. GOP stickers abound.

Love your posts Dunc!

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