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Rhiannon12866

(247,475 posts)
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 06:10 PM Oct 17

'They are not kids': Nicolle Wallace reacts to JD Vance defending racist 'young' Republicans chat - Deadline - MSNBC



Former Congressman Colin Allred joins Nicolle Wallace on Deadline: White House with reaction to the story unearthed by Politico detailing a treasure trove of vile, bigoted and racist text messages involving Young Republicans across the country and JD Vance’s pathetic and weak defense of their actions. - Aired on 10/17/2025.
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wcmagumba

(5,258 posts)
1. Good for her, none were "kids", all were 20 plus and one of the "kiddies" was 40 years old...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 06:14 PM
Oct 17

Vance can go suck a couch pillow...

Deep State Witch

(12,472 posts)
5. When I was 22
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 07:52 PM
Oct 17

I was working in a Federal agency. I had to be professional. Not like these assclowns that probably never worked a day in their lives.

Hekate

(100,130 posts)
6. Nicolle & Rachel are the reason I insist MSNBC is not the "sucky MSM" some keep howling avout
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 09:41 PM
Oct 17

Ye gods, these women are good.

There are others who do well, but there are only so many hours in the day that I can devote to news/commentary…

Rhiannon12866

(247,475 posts)
7. Nicolle and Rachel are my favorites, too - They absolutely know their stuff and certainly speak out
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 09:49 PM
Oct 17

And there are male hosts that I really like, too - Lawrence O'Donnell and Ali Velshi.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,046 posts)
8. MaddowBlog-JD Vance doubles down, pushes ridiculous defense of racist Republican group chat
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:25 AM
Oct 18

The vice president’s initial rhetoric about a disgusting GOP group chat was misguided. His follow-up remarks made matters far worse.

As JD Vance describes the Republican members of a racist group chat as “kids” and “young boys,” consider:

One of the participants is 35.

When Vance launched his Senate campaign, he was 36. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-16T17:01:46.672Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vance-doubles-pushes-ridiculous-defense-racist-republican-group-cha-rcna238010
On Tuesday night, just hours after the Politico report was first published, the vice president wrote via social media that this was merely “a college group chat,” adding that he refused to “join the pearl clutching.”

A day later, the Ohio Republican elaborated on his perspective while again downplaying the significance of the story. Vance said on a conservative podcast:

The reality is that kids do stupid things, especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes. That’s what kids do. And I really don’t want us to grow up in a country where a kid telling a stupid joke — telling a very offensive, stupid joke — is cause to ruin their lives
.

While continuing to refer to the group chat’s participants as “kids,” the vice president added that, as far as he’s concerned, this isn’t a “real” issue.

Vance on public outrage over the "I love Hitler" group chat: "Grow up! Focus on the real issues. Don't focus on what kids say in group chats... The reality is that kids do stupid things, especially young boys — they tell edgy, offensive jokes. That's what kids do."

The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) 2025-10-15T18:56:47.333Z


So, a few things.

First, the idea that those responsible for racist, antisemitic and homophobic content, including comments about gas chambers, slavery and rape, were “young boys” and “kids” is factually wrong. The Republicans in question were adults. Some are in their 30s.....

Second, if Vance believes comments about rape and gas chambers are “edgy,” he probably ought to reassess his cultural standards.

Third, we’re not just talking about a group of teens who fired off a dumb text on the quad between classes. Some of these Republican adults are currently working for elected officials, ostensibly serving the public. One, Samuel Douglass of Vermont, is even a sitting state senator.

Fourth, Vance might not see systemic Republican bigotry as a “real” issue, but that says more about the vice president than it does about those taking the controversy seriously.

Stepping back, it would’ve been incredibly easy for Vance to simply say, “Bigotry has no place in this party.” But for reasons he hasn’t explained, the vice president, almost exactly a year after peddling a racist conspiracy theory, refused this incredibly obvious course.
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